P&W secures $5.7 billion deal for F135 engines

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Unread post03 Oct 2019, 20:02

P&W secures $5.7 billion deal for F135 engines
03 Oct 2019 Greg Waldron

"Pratt & Whitney has secured a $5.7 billion US Department of Defense contract covering the 12th and 13th production lots of the F135 engine that powers the Lockheed Martin F-35 fighter.

“This award represents the largest-ever F135 production contract, funding more than 332 engines for the U.S. armed services and international customers, and includes program management, engineering support, production support, and tooling,” says the company.

The deal also includes priced options for Lot 14 production.…" [???]

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Unread post03 Oct 2019, 23:50

As part of a multi-year/EOQ contract the government can secure (typically firm) fixed
priced options for additional units. Not exercising the options doesn't alter the price for the firm quantities.
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Unread post04 Oct 2019, 00:11

OK - thanks.
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Unread post04 Oct 2019, 15:23

It seems like Pratt and Whitney always wins these DoD engine contracts.

Provided they have the better engine, I'm all for it. That appears to be the case with the F-35/F-135, so no harm no foul. OTOH, when GE introduced the F-110 it was even better than the F-100 (in some metrics). You always hear Viper drivers say they prefer the GE engine/big mouth to its Pratt contemporary. Because of that, I'm surprised they didn't re-engine the F-15 with higher thrust motors.

With the F-119 and F-135, Pratt seems to be pulling away in the great engine race. Does GE have anything comparable, at least on the drawing board??
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Unread post04 Oct 2019, 20:11

mixelflick wrote:It seems like Pratt and Whitney always wins these DoD engine contracts.

Provided they have the better engine, I'm all for it. That appears to be the case with the F-35/F-135, so no harm no foul. OTOH, when GE introduced the F-110 it was even better than the F-100 (in some metrics). You always hear Viper drivers say they prefer the GE engine/big mouth to its Pratt contemporary. Because of that, I'm surprised they didn't re-engine the F-15 with higher thrust motors.




at any given moment in the military there are 2 dozen real problems that need fixing vs turning good into great.

With the F-119 and F-135, Pratt seems to be pulling away in the great engine race.


no, GE has plenty of engines going in commercial and military aircraft


Does GE have anything comparable, at least on the drawing board??


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Unread post02 Dec 2019, 05:08

Latest F135 Contract. The USAF version is now down under $11 million per engine. That puts it pretty close to the cost of two F100/F110 or two F414.

http://www.airforcemag.com/Features/Pag ... gines.aspx

Pratt & Whitney received a $762.5 million modification to a previously awarded fixed-price incentive fee contract for F-35 fighter engines on Nov. 22.

The modification funds 48 F135-100 engines for Air Force F-35A aircraft, and 10 F135-600 engines for Marine Corps F-35B aircraft.

The Air Force work is worth $521.5 million and the Marine powerplants represent $241 million of the award; together they fund US engines in the F-35 Lot 14 production.

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