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Unread post12 Mar 2016, 11:36

hi, I have a question and I really hope somebody has an answer for me.

What is de engine start up procedure/sequence for the F-35? Is it similar to the F-16? And are there any checklists available for the F-35. I have sold my F-16 simulator and i'm looking for data for my new F-35 simulator.

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Unread post12 Mar 2016, 11:41

There is another version of F-35A SOPs Standard Operating Procedures and a mention elsewhere about starting the engine - however I will have to find it.

http://www.bits.de/NRANEU/others/END-Ar ... 812%29.pdf (0.5Mb 78 pages) Attached below
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Unread post12 Mar 2016, 11:47

spazsinbad wrote:There is another version of F-35A SOPs Standard Operating Procedures and a mention elsewhere about starting the engine - however I will have to find it.<br abp="761"><br abp="762">http://www.bits.de/NRANEU/others/END-Archive/afi11-2f-35av3%2812%29.pdf (0.5Mb 78 pages) Attached below


Thank you for your reply, I took a look in the SOP attachment but there was no procedure of firing the engines, only hand gestures and signals. But thanks there was good information in that doc.

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Unread post12 Mar 2016, 11:58

This "...a mention elsewhere about starting the engine..." means: "somewhere else there is information about starting the engine". As I recall it was simple and not something I personally need to know - hence it is 'elsewhere' - wherever that is.
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Unread post12 Mar 2016, 12:12

One day the flight manual for the F-35 variants will be available - don't wait however. Meanwhile we have to do with this:
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26 April 2012 Mark Ayton; AIR International F-35 Lightning II

"...Engine start-up is highly automated, requiring just three switch selections, one each for the battery, integrated
power pack and the engine. Only two selections are required for a hot start.

When the engine has started and is fully spooled up, the pilot must run a few brief checks specific to flight test procedures, which are undertaken before running the vehicle systems built in test (VS BIT). Initiated by a button in the cockpit, the system self-tests almost every function imaginable on the aircraft including the STOVL doors in the case of an F-35B. After 90 seconds, if there are no problems, the aircraft declares itself ready for flight.

The pilot then sets joker (return to base) and bingo (minimum) fuel states, turns on the helmet-mounted display, sets the brightness of the displays and is ready to taxi...."

Source: http://militaryrussia.ru/forum/download ... p?id=28256? (PDF 12.5Mb)
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Unread post12 Mar 2016, 12:25

Oh, thanks for you effort i will keep searching and make an document about the start up procedure for the F-35 and post it on the forum.
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Unread post12 Mar 2016, 14:51

Seems to me the engine start procedure is outlined above - very simple and highly automated:
- Select battery on with button
- Start IPP with button on
- Start engine with start button
- Run VS BIT
After 90 seconds of self test the aircraft should indicate ready to taxi
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Unread post12 Mar 2016, 16:50

spazsinbad wrote:Seems to me the engine start procedure is outlined above - very simple and highly automated:<br abp="755">- Select battery on with button<br abp="756">- Start IPP with button on<br abp="757">- Start engine with start button<br abp="758">- Run VS BIT<br abp="759">After 90 seconds of self test the aircraft should indicate ready to taxi


Yeah I know, I was going to make an detailed document about the procedure.
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Unread post12 Mar 2016, 17:02

OK. IF you find more information please give the URL references. Thanks.
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Unread post12 Mar 2016, 17:22

spazsinbad wrote:OK. IF you find more information please give the URL references. Thanks.

Yeah i will put all the URL's I have used in the document.
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Unread post12 Mar 2016, 17:30

marclugt wrote:
spazsinbad wrote:Seems to me the engine start procedure is outlined above - very simple and highly automated:<br abp="755">- Select battery on with button<br abp="756">- Start IPP with button on<br abp="757">- Start engine with start button<br abp="758">- Run VS BIT<br abp="759">After 90 seconds of self test the aircraft should indicate ready to taxi


Yeah I know, I was going to make an detailed document about the procedure.


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Unread post12 Mar 2016, 17:34

sferrin wrote:
marclugt wrote:
spazsinbad wrote:Seems to me the engine start procedure is outlined above - very simple and highly automated:<br abp="755">- Select battery on with button<br abp="756">- Start IPP with button on<br abp="757">- Start engine with start button<br abp="758">- Run VS BIT<br abp="759">After 90 seconds of self test the aircraft should indicate ready to taxi
<br abp="783"><br abp="784">Yeah I know, I was going to make an detailed document about the procedure.
<br abp="785"><br abp="786">


That's pretty badass, I have seen the movie so yeah.....
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Unread post12 Mar 2016, 17:38

Could be worse. He could have let the Millennium Falcon get away. . . :lol:
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Unread post12 Mar 2016, 17:41

sferrin wrote:Could be worse. He could have let the Millennium Falcon get away. . . :lol:

Star Wars fan? :lol:
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Unread post12 Mar 2016, 18:09

marclugt wrote:
sferrin wrote:Could be worse. He could have let the Millennium Falcon get away. . . :lol:

Star Wars fan? :lol:


Same actor lets the Falcon get away. Lucky he didn't get force-choked. :lol:
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