F-35 Lightning II vs Dassault Rafale

The F-35 compared with other modern jets.
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Unread post10 Oct 2018, 17:18

Probably a little bit off topic but what castle is that? (or where is it located at?)
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Unread post10 Oct 2018, 17:30

ricnunes wrote:Probably a little bit off topic but what castle is that? (or where is it located at?)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont-Saint-Michel
During high tide it becomes an island...
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Unread post11 Oct 2018, 10:45

Thanks juretrn :)
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Unread post11 Oct 2018, 13:07

I would consider replacing the current visible light TV system with SWIR system as they tinker with the system anyway. SWIR would allow almost similar resolution with much superior capability in night-time and ability to see through (light) clouds, haze, smoke and rain. Of course that would increase costs quite a bit.
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Unread post11 Oct 2018, 14:39

In fact, it is already in close IR (the -)
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Unread post13 Oct 2018, 22:34

ricnunes wrote:Probably a little bit off topic but what castle is that? (or where is it located at?)

Thats the famous abbey of Mont-Saint-Michel. Normandy, France.
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Unread post14 Oct 2018, 22:21

lbk000 wrote:
ricnunes wrote:Probably a little bit off topic but what castle is that? (or where is it located at?)

Thats the famous abbey of Mont-Saint-Michel. Normandy, France.


Thanks lbk000 :)
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Unread post16 Oct 2018, 20:26

Former Test Pilot Jon Beesley, take not what he says towards the very end...





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Unread post21 Oct 2018, 19:06

How is it related to Rafale?
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Unread post22 Oct 2018, 19:30

Not directly linked but...

Dassault vision of 6th gen fighter to be revealed as a kit tomorrow

https://twitter.com/xaviervav/status/10 ... 6339123203
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Unread post22 Oct 2018, 20:05

Never seen a mfg "skip" a generation before. There has to be something substantially different from the previous Gen in order to claim that yours is "Next Gen". This should be interesting coming from an mfg that has no 5th gen exp.
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Unread post22 Oct 2018, 20:50

SpudmanWP wrote:Never seen a mfg "skip" a generation before. There has to be something substantially different from the previous Gen in order to claim that yours is "Next Gen". This should be interesting coming from an mfg that has no 5th gen exp.



I remember that this was mentioned earlier on the forum when Russia first announced the SU-57. Many posters here doubted their ability to accomplish the project due to the technical difficulties. The US had the benefit of learning from the F-117 and B2 before venturing into the development of the F-22 and F-35. Skipping straight to 6th gen without any of the lessons learned will probably go the same way of the SU-57.
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Unread post22 Oct 2018, 22:17

kimjongnumbaun wrote:
SpudmanWP wrote:Never seen a mfg "skip" a generation before. There has to be something substantially different from the previous Gen in order to claim that yours is "Next Gen". This should be interesting coming from an mfg that has no 5th gen exp.



I remember that this was mentioned earlier on the forum when Russia first announced the SU-57. Many posters here doubted their ability to accomplish the project due to the technical difficulties. The US had the benefit of learning from the F-117 and B2 before venturing into the development of the F-22 and F-35. Skipping straight to 6th gen without any of the lessons learned will probably go the same way of the SU-57.


There is no direct link between naming something "X generation" and said something acquiring qualities of name given. What they present tomorrow will likely their take on 5th gen - 20 years late, but at least they know what works and what the market wants. Rafale, after all, turned out to be a fine aircraft. Interesting to see what they come up with - hardly anything revolutionary, but their design might have certain advantages given it's timeframe.
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