F-35B/C vs. F/A-18A-F or G

The F-35 compared with other modern jets.
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Unread post31 Oct 2016, 08:02

I don't think fighting Super Hornet would go that much different from fighting AESA equipped F-15s. SH definitely has much lower RCS, but F-15 has larger and more powerful radar and is generally thought as superior air-to-air platform although SH is definitely no slouch.

I'd really be interested in how F-35 fares against US Navy Carrier Strike Group as they'd offer by far the most dangerous IADS deployed anywhere. If F-35 can operate against such a threat, anything else would be pretty easy in comparison.
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Unread post31 Oct 2016, 08:03

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMFT-401 USMC ADVERSARY ONLY - I have PDFs about them - I'll see what can be finded! :mrgreen:
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Unread post31 Oct 2016, 08:16

geforcerfx wrote:
neptune wrote:To ask my original question a bit differently; the Corp has tested their Block 3I Bee with success against their best SAM sites and opposing air forces, why not the Navy?

The USAF has successfully tested their F-35 Block 3I against their best F-15/ 16s tactics.

The F-35 Sea Block 3I has been tested on the flight/ hangar decks and Top Gun is preparing for it's future tactics, why is it not being tested now against Aegis and the LO SBug?

The USAF and the Corp appear to be testing their F-35s against their current best equipment and tactics, why not the Canoe Club?

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Navy doesn't have to counter the perceived negatives as bad? What I mean is the F-16 and F-15 are known to be very good machines that are being replaced by a unknown/unproven asset(as the 16 and 15 against the F-4). The air force was having to do what they did with the 1 raptor took on 6 eagles and won campaign, they have to show the money is being spent on a more capable platform. If the F-35C was replacing the Tomcat it would prob be having to go through the same thing, but the bug and super bug don't seem to have the fan fare the 14,15,&16 have/ had, and the Super Bug is still getting over all the crap it got back in the early days when replacing the F-14. Also the F-35 is more of a side project for the navy it would seem, they have/ had a lot of major large (expensive) projects going on, and they tend to have more media focus on those (Ford and Zumwalt), just me perspective on it.


Do you really believe all of that BS that you just said??? :doh:
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Unread post31 Oct 2016, 09:42

8 page PDF about USMC Fighter Tactics course with F-5Ns as adversary amongst others attached.

& a 4 page PDF about same from 2016 USN/USMC Yearbook attached. Remember there are USN F-5 Adversary Sqdns also.
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Unread post31 Oct 2016, 12:21

From the same place as the USMC Adversary story above, US Navy & Marine Corps Air Power Yearbook 2016, comes the USN Adversary Squadron equivalents in four page PDF attached.
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Unread post31 Oct 2016, 19:34

spazsinbad wrote:From the same place as the USMC Adversary story above, US Navy & Marine Corps Air Power Yearbook 2016, comes the USN Adversary Squadron equivalents in four page PDF attached.


Nice article. I'm quite familiar with a couple of those side numbers :)
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Unread post01 Nov 2016, 01:23

Corsair1963 wrote:
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mk82 wrote:Correct me if I am wrong but I believe VMFA 121's F35Bs hammered F/A 18 aggressors (like Raptors :mrgreen: ) hard during their operational tests pre IOC last year.


I think this was when 4 F-35B's took out 9 attackers pre-IOC for the Marines.
There was wide speculation the 9 attackers were Marine Hornets (given their Fighter Attack Training Squadrons are all Hornets). It's never been confirmed however.



I thought it was nine F-16's???


What aircraft the attackers were flying was never specified (at least in anything I read). However, during the same interview, Lt. Gen. Jon Davis was asked about the infamous "War is Boring" dog-fight report, in which he talks about the F-16. So many people assumed the attackers may have been Vipers.

http://breakingdefense.com/2015/07/dunf ... attackers/
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Unread post01 Nov 2016, 07:33

spazsinbad wrote:From the same place as the USMC Adversary story above, US Navy & Marine Corps Air Power Yearbook 2016, comes the USN Adversary Squadron equivalents in four page PDF attached.



Thanks for the articles.... :D
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