F-35 and X-47B

The F-35 compared with other modern jets.
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Unread post04 Feb 2020, 17:54

This tweet from Steve Trimble is neither about F-35 nor Stingray but quite interesting nonerheless:

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheDEWLine/s ... 7479322624

I like the fact that nowadays militaries can still keep things under wrap, like this unmanned Growlers or Israeli Pereh tank.
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Unread post04 Feb 2020, 19:51

hythelday wrote:This tweet from Steve Trimble is neither about F-35 nor Stingray but quite interesting nonerheless:

<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">https://mobile.twitter.com/TheDEWLine/status/1224728667479322624</span>

I like the fact that nowadays militaries can still keep things under wrap, like this unmanned Growlers or Israeli Pereh tank.


..and just about completely kills the justification for the MQ-25. There's probably nothing preventing you from
refueling from a 5-wet or 3-wet + CFT drone Super Bug. And it'll be a good deal cheaper than
developing and carrier qualifying a new aircraft.
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Unread post04 Feb 2020, 20:57

HUH? The point of STINGRAY is to reduce/minimise/stop using Shornets as tankers so these 'tanker SuperHornets' can return to their main role and reduce also wear and tear on the remaining Super Hornets. Eventually it seems StungRaid will be developed further most likely - or son of said ray - etc.
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Unread post04 Feb 2020, 22:35

Pax River is at it agin!, seems they are planning to add fuel volume to the "Sea" to increase "on station" time while controlling drone Growlers. more at the link
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http://www.c4isrnet.com/naval/2020/02/0 ... anned-jet/

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Unread post04 Feb 2020, 23:51

News earlier posted by 'hythelday' : viewtopic.php?f=55&t=20468&p=434207&hilit=trimble#p434207

And I replicated that 'twittering' here: viewtopic.php?f=58&t=23043&p=434209&hilit=becuz#p434209

One of the URLs above gave me a virus warning BOGUS but I had to close Internet Explorer 11 to be able to use it again.
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Unread post05 Feb 2020, 05:00

spazsinbad wrote:HUH? The point of STINGRAY is to reduce/minimise/stop using Shornets as tankers so these 'tanker SuperHornets' can return to their main role and reduce also wear and tear on the remaining Super Hornets. Eventually it seems StungRaid will be developed further most likely - or son of said ray - etc.



The UCAV/UCAS/UCLASS/CBARS/MQ-25 stuff is all due to the Navy being under pressure to do
something with unmanned on the CVNs.

If you go back to the original JROC justification for MQ-25 it was less about reducing the burden
on the Super Bugs and more to do with the fact that the Navy didn't think they'd be getting any new
build Super Bugs after 2015 and that the Block I's would start retiring in the 2020s.

The former is no longer true and the Navy can now claim that they have gone the unmanned route.
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Unread post05 Feb 2020, 06:37

marauder2048 wrote:
spazsinbad wrote:HUH? The point of STINGRAY is to reduce/minimise/stop using Shornets as tankers so these 'tanker SuperHornets' can return to their main role and reduce also wear and tear on the remaining Super Hornets. Eventually it seems StungRaid will be developed further most likely - or son of said ray - etc.



The UCAV/UCAS/UCLASS/CBARS/MQ-25 stuff is all due to the Navy being under pressure to do
something with unmanned on the CVNs.

If you go back to the original JROC justification for MQ-25 it was less about reducing the burden
on the Super Bugs and more to do with the fact that the Navy didn't think they'd be getting any new
build Super Bugs after 2015 and that the Block I's would start retiring in the 2020s.

The former is no longer true and the Navy can now claim that they have gone the unmanned route.

The goal was also to stop using SHs as tankers, as it not only wore them out faster, but cut into the combat punch, as aircraft were being used as tankers instead of strikers, fleet defense, etc.... The CPFH on the MQ-25 will be a fraction as well, which frees up funds elsewhere.
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Unread post05 Feb 2020, 06:58

marauder2048 wrote:
hythelday wrote:This tweet from Steve Trimble is neither about F-35 nor Stingray but quite interesting nonerheless:

<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">https://mobile.twitter.com/TheDEWLine/status/1224728667479322624</span>

I like the fact that nowadays militaries can still keep things under wrap, like this unmanned Growlers or Israeli Pereh tank.


..and just about completely kills the justification for the MQ-25. There's probably nothing preventing you from
refueling from a 5-wet or 3-wet + CFT drone Super Bug. And it'll be a good deal cheaper than
developing and carrier qualifying a new aircraft.



hmm, you may have a point??? Why not just upgrade older Super Hornets to Tanker/Drones. While, buying more F-35C's.....
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Unread post05 Feb 2020, 07:49

Was not there a point to 'clean sheet design' with something in the future in mind? Yes a tanker with future possibilities. Shornet Drones are so out of luck with that and probably out of time airframewise. USN needs all the manned aircraft +.
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