F-35 and X-47B

The F-35 compared with other modern jets.
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Unread post11 Apr 2018, 06:35

:devil: Brake Da Fence makes the same 404 engine mistake - they were all on the piss (booze) I reckon. :doh: nothing else.

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Unread post14 Apr 2018, 00:13

For sure the USN definition of 'rapid' is slowly puzzling me but not my concern really, hope it all works out well enough....
MQ-25 Contenders on Display at U.S. Navy Show
12 Apr 2018 Chris Pocock

"...One of the many puzzling aspects of the MQ-25 iteration, is that the Navy has declared an urgent need to stop using F-18s as "buddy" refuelers to preserve airframe life, and yet the MQ-25 program of record does not foresee an operational capability until 2026. But Weiss said that the Navy “desired a rapid program” and that ADP would work with the Navy’s Maritime Accelerated Capability Office (MACO)....

...Another puzzling aspect of the MQ-25 program is that, unlike for any previous U.S. military UAS program, the winning airframer will have to adapt to a control system provided by the Navy, which will act as “lead systems integrator.” [think the amazing success of the X-47B] Presumably, however, the contenders have been made familiar with that control system via the risk-reduction contracts that they each received in the fall of 2016....

...Reportedly, Northrop Grumman was not comfortable with the terms of the “fixed-price incentive, firm-target contract” that the Navy is offering. Another reason for not bidding could be that the Aerospace Systems business sector of Northrop Grumman is already working at capacity on other Pentagon programs. It has won the B-21 new stealth bomber development contract; is still developing the RQ-4/MQ-4 high-altitude UAV; and is also producing a highly-classified penetrating ISR airframe that is now entering service with the USAF."

Source: https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... -navy-show
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Unread post14 Apr 2018, 04:37

They want the program rapidly, not the tanker?
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Unread post14 Apr 2018, 14:47

spazsinbad wrote:For sure the USN definition of 'rapid' is slowly puzzling me but not my concern really, hope it all works out well enough....
MQ-25 Contenders on Display at U.S. Navy Show
12 Apr 2018 Chris Pocock

"...One of the many puzzling aspects of the MQ-25 iteration, is that the Navy has declared an urgent need to stop using F-18s as "buddy" refuelers to preserve airframe life, and yet the MQ-25 program of record does not foresee an operational capability until 2026. But Weiss said that the Navy “desired a rapid program” and that ADP would work with the Navy’s Maritime Accelerated Capability Office (MACO)....

...Another puzzling aspect of the MQ-25 program is that, unlike for any previous U.S. military UAS program, the winning airframer will have to adapt to a control system provided by the Navy, which will act as “lead systems integrator.” [think the amazing success of the X-47B] Presumably, however, the contenders have been made familiar with that control system via the risk-reduction contracts that they each received in the fall of 2016....

...Reportedly, Northrop Grumman was not comfortable with the terms of the “fixed-price incentive, firm-target contract” that the Navy is offering. Another reason for not bidding could be that the Aerospace Systems business sector of Northrop Grumman is already working at capacity on other Pentagon programs. It has won the B-21 new stealth bomber development contract; is still developing the RQ-4/MQ-4 high-altitude UAV; and is also producing a highly-classified penetrating ISR airframe that is now entering service with the USAF."

Source: https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... -navy-show


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Unread post16 Apr 2018, 12:09

MQ-25 Stingray Drone Purpose-Built to Marry Manned, Unmanned
09 Apr 2018 Nick Zazulia

"...Weiss stressed the importance of the MQ-25 being purpose-built while most tankers are derivatives of other designs, which, he said, generally leaves them compromised. Originally, Lockheed did look at re-purposing its canceled U-class surveillance drone, the Sea Ghost, but Weiss said that the Skunk Works team was unsatisfied.

The result is a built-from-the-ground-up flying-wing UAS designed to check all the Navy’s boxes for range (Lockheed touts a 52% increase for an F-35C) and carrier-suitability and to leave room for future growth....

...“The breakthrough that’s going to occur with the MQ-25? It’s not, frankly, operating an unmanned air system off a carrier. We know how to do that, and the design itself is low risk. But the learning and the opportunity is going to be the man-unmanned teaming that comes with it.”

A lot of that ability comes from the AI Lockheed Martin has running the MQ-25. For instance, sensors on the front of the Stingray through which the operator watches a yellow-shirted leading petty officer directing them on a carrier flight deck also has indicators to show the LPO that the operator is watching them. That is to facilitate communication and easier landing and parking on a crowded flight deck being shared by manned and unmanned aircraft.

The company won’t reveal any partners working on internal technology or avionics yet, but Weiss said that Lockheed is leveraging its work on open-system architecture to mission control systems to give the Stingray that ability to work smoothly with manned aircraft, some basic ISR capabilities, multi-vehicle control potential and, above all else, the ability to grow and adapt in the future.

To that end, stealth capabilities are one arena that Weiss said could become relevant at some point. Though the Stingray is not a low-observable stealth design, the flying-wing form factor and open-architecture system lend themselves to that capability if the Navy expresses interest in the future.

A demonstration for the Navy is coming up soon, showing an unrevealed configuration aircraft that Skunk Works is confident “is very representative” of the MQ-25’s capabilities."

Source: http://www.aviationtoday.com/2018/04/09 ... -unmanned/

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Unread post17 Apr 2018, 23:44

General Atomics demonstrates MQ-25 drone’s flight deck capability
17 Apr 2018 Daniel Cebul

"WASHINGTON ― General Atomics Aeronautical Systems has successfully demonstrated flight deck taxi capability for the MQ-25. Using a Predator C Avenger as a surrogate, the company demonstrated its unmanned platforms can integrate with the complexities of flight deck operations.

The Avenger specifically showed it could taxi and transition to launch and recovery phases. “This demonstration proves that the GA-ASI solution will integrate into existing ship operations, and that translates into less time spent steaming into the wind for launches and recoveries,” David R. Alexander, president of GA-ASI’s aircraft systems unit, said in a news release.

Flight deck operators used specially designed wands that enabled the unmanned system to “see“ standard Naval Air Training and Operating Procedures Standardization flight deck director hand gestures using GA-ASI recognition algorithms.

MQ-25 will be able to ‘talk back’ to the controller and other flight deck personnel using a small series of LEDs that change colors and/or flash to show that they have received a command and indicate the aircraft’s condition or operating state,” Alexander said. “To give you an idea of how the system works, think Wii for aircraft control.”..."

Source: https://www.defensenews.com/unmanned/20 ... apability/

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Unread post18 Apr 2018, 12:50

TAXI DEMO VIDEO HERE: http://www.ga-asi.com/MQ-25 MQ-25 Flight Deck Taxi Capability
General Atomics demos Wii-like deck-handling system for MQ-25
16 Apr 2018 Garrett Reim

"General Atomics Aeronautical Systems demonstrated aircraft carrier deck-handling controls for its MQ-25 tanker bid using a pair of motion-sensing director wands and an Avenger unmanned aerial vehicle as a stand-in for its yet-to-be-built prototype.

The demonstration showed the ability to control the Avenger UAV on a tarmac using hand movements, including the ability to direct taxing, and transition to the launch and recovery phases, General Atomics showed in a video posted to its website. The specially designed director wands are the same size, shape and weight as those used on aircraft carrier decks to direct manned aircraft, such as the F/A-18 Super Hornet, the company said.

General Atomics’ wands use proprietary gesture recognition algorithms to identify standard hand movements, as designated by Naval Air Training and Operating Procedures, and then translates and sends those commands to the MQ-25 air vehicle, the company said. The aircraft receives the commands and converts them into the appropriate actions.

“MQ-25 will be able to talk back to the controller and other flight deck personnel using a small series of LEDs that change colors and flash to show that they have received a command and indicate the aircraft’s condition or operating state,” said General Atomics’ David Alexander, president of GA-ASI’s aircraft systems. “A safety observer on deck can stop the aircraft instantly any time an unsafe situation is identified. To give you an idea of how the system works, think Wii for aircraft control.”

Directors can fully control aircraft taxi operations on deck using the wand, including lowering and raising the launch bar, spreading and folding the wings, and raising the arresting hook, General Atomics said...."



Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... em-447750/



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Unread post18 Apr 2018, 16:38

"Weapon bay door" ??? @ 2:35 of the video Spaz posted.

It would seem LM & AGI both have an eye towards the boom-boom.
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