And in how many dogfights (specially those that ended up in kills) were missiles fired from an upside-down position during tight dogfights?!?!?
Something tells me that it was probably close to if not outright, ZERO.
milosh wrote:Btw why LM bother to make sidebays for F-22, why Russians developed that bumpy pod, why Chinese design missile rail for J-20 so it can carry wvr missile externally during wvr combat, when all you need is to fire BVR missile from belly door during tight turnings, what stupid people were folks in LM in 1980s, in Sukhoi and Chengdu in 2000s.
Well, for instance in the case of the Russians and Chinese perhaps their medium-range missiles aren't nearly as good as an AMRAAM (specially later models) in very close range so they probably need to complement with close-range/WVR range missiles to compensate for this.
Regarding the F-22, remember that this aircraft's origins came in the 1980's from the ATF program so the same limitation as above also applied (the AMRAAM still didn't exist and it was in development stage). Even when the YF-22 prototype (which had the Sidewinder side-bays) first flew (in 1990) the AMRAAM wasn't still introduced in service (which happened in 1991).
milosh wrote:And to be clear, I was writing about F-35 demos which don't have nothing with dogfight capable F-35. Dogfight capable F-35 is one with AIM-9X. In demo shows I didn't saw it fly with pylons and AIM-9.
Su-35 for while is doing demos with two R-73. F-22 demo configuration is same as F-22 with two AIM-9. Su-57 same deal, J-20 same.
Jezz get over it and for f*cking Christ sake accept that the AMRAAM is capable of engaging enemy aircraft in dogfights - I already provided you the evidence of this!
You may argue that the AMRAAM may not be as good as one of the most advanced dedicated short-range/WVR missiles such as the AIM-9X for example in certain/some dogfight situations and perhaps rightly so but saying that the F-35 armed with AMRAAM's isn't dogfight capable is plain ridiculous and totally and completely wrong!
“Active stealth” is what the ignorant nay sayers call ECM and pretend like it’s new.