F-35 Versus S-300/400/HQ-9

The F-35 compared with other modern jets.
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Unread post22 Jun 2020, 22:02

Another recent incident.

I think the idea of Israel releasing photos of deployed S-300s before hostilities a year ago is extremely funny.
Its almost like taunting them.

Additionally, satellite images released by Israeli intelligence firm ImageSat Intl (ISI) in July 2019 showed the complete deployment of four Russian-made S-300 missile defense systems in Syria’s Masyaf province.

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/idf ... ort-630382
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Unread post30 Jun 2020, 01:36

US could buy Turkey’s Russian-made S-400 under Senate proposal

WASHINGTON ― The U.S. would be able to buy Turkey’s Russian-made S-400 air defense system under legislation proposed in the Senate last week. The proposal is one powerful lawmaker’s attempt to alleviate the impasse between Washington and Ankara over the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

Senate Majority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., has proposed an amendment to the 2021 National Defense Authorization Act that would allow the purchase to be made using the U.S. Army’s missile procurement account. The move comes a year after the U.S. expelled NATO ally Turkey from the multinational F-35 program because it received the S-400 in a $2.5 billion deal.

However, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Jim Risch, R-Idaho, has introduced an amendment that would take a tougher stance, mandating the Trump administration implement CAATSA sanctions on Turkey within 30 days of passage of the NDAA. Risch has been critical of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and accused him of bad faith in dealings with the U.S. over the S-400...

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/20 ... -proposal/

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Unread post30 Jun 2020, 02:13

zerion wrote:
US could buy Turkey’s Russian-made S-400 under Senate proposal

WASHINGTON ― The U.S. would be able to buy Turkey’s Russian-made S-400 air defense system under legislation proposed in the Senate last week. The proposal is one powerful lawmaker’s attempt to alleviate the impasse between Washington and Ankara over the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

Senate Majority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., has proposed an amendment to the 2021 National Defense Authorization Act that would allow the purchase to be made using the U.S. Army’s missile procurement account. The move comes a year after the U.S. expelled NATO ally Turkey from the multinational F-35 program because it received the S-400 in a $2.5 billion deal.

However, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Jim Risch, R-Idaho, has introduced an amendment that would take a tougher stance, mandating the Trump administration implement CAATSA sanctions on Turkey within 30 days of passage of the NDAA. Risch has been critical of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and accused him of bad faith in dealings with the U.S. over the S-400...

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/20 ... -proposal/



Don't see Russia allowing Turkey to sell the S-400 to the US.... :roll:
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Unread post30 Jun 2020, 03:59

Pffft. Buy our technology back? S-400 is old water under the bridge. At least we can make it out to be a threat until the Chinese get a comparable system that is exportable, then we can make that the reason to justify NGAD and every other gold-plated future procurement program.
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Unread post01 Jul 2020, 15:15

weasel1962 wrote:Its a bit confusing. Chinese radars and Russki SAMs. So are the articles talking about the latter? In which case its Russian propaganda, not Chinese.


Plenty of both out there.

Of course, when the next large scale conflict in the ME kicks off we can expect to see the F-35/S-400 matchup at its finest. Until then, Israel will use its F-35's to knock off Russian/Chinese radars and SAM's one or two at a time. If and when they take down an entire S-400 battery and/or destroy whatever's left of Syria, the Russians, Chinese and whoever bought their IADS are goign to face a day of reckoning.

All that $ spent on something, that didn't work as advertised. Now what?

Not going to be pretty, because outside of China - there will be no stealth aircraft to lean on... until they find a better answer.
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