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Re: Gunning the Lightning

Unread postPosted: 10 Feb 2020, 20:13
by sprstdlyscottsmn
forgive a young punk, '100 over the north?' 100 missions over North Vietnam?

Re: Gunning the Lightning

Unread postPosted: 10 Feb 2020, 20:24
by sferrin
outlaw162 wrote:The F-105 was a tired, old nostalgic piece of history when I flew it in 79-80. Not quite the 750-800 knot beast it had been.

Fastest I ever saw was 1.2 at 10,000 which is around 680 KCAS....this was with CL tank on it. Shook and wobbled like crazy. :shock:

We had a bunch of '100 over the north' Thud drivers back from the war as instructors at Del Rio when I was a 2/Lt T-37 instructor in the mid 60s. As far as I was concerned, these guys could walk on water. :salute:

One of ours (near the end):


As a kid growing up near Hill AFB, they had F-4s and F-105s. F-105 was my favorite aircraft for years.

Re: Gunning the Lightning

Unread postPosted: 10 Feb 2020, 21:18
by outlaw162
forgive a young punk, '100 over the north?' 100 missions over North Vietnam?


Yep, I was always in awe of that patch. Had the honor of flying with a bunch of 'em in AFRes.

Re: Gunning the Lightning

Unread postPosted: 10 Feb 2020, 21:40
by sprstdlyscottsmn
:salute:

Re: Gunning the Lightning

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2020, 22:53
by commisar
spazsinbad wrote:One has to lead the target. The A-4 with a fixed sight (usually added a small depression) had to lead quite a bit. My one time use of a gyro gunsight (in a test) was eye-opening and it went well. Must have been all that fixed sight practice. :mrgreen:


The A-4 never had a gyro sign installed?

Re: Gunning the Lightning

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2020, 23:26
by spazsinbad
Skyhawk production models only had a fixed (but depressing :doh: ) gunsight. This has been explained in a few scattered places on this forum (I'll go look for one or two) however gyro gunsights along with sometimes air to air radar - amongst other worthwhile improvements were retrofitted - for example the A-4K KAHU was like an F-16 of the day avionics-wise.

Just quickly the A4G had a chance for THOMSON/Thompson-Ferranti gyro gunsight to be fitted but bean counters said no.
"...The RNZAF’s [KAHU upgraded] Skyhawks were equipped with the Ferranti model 4513 HUD which was unique in displaying both analogue and digital data..." http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafcms/mediafiles ... 2FD704.pdf [not there now]

Skyhawk A-4M NATOPS dated 1971: https://www.docdroid.com/1sXZ4xD/dougla ... manual-pdf (63Mb)

Re: Gunning the Lightning

Unread postPosted: 04 Jul 2020, 02:23
by spazsinbad
Using the search term: 'gunsight+skyhawk' one may find a few examples in the F-35 forum and perhaps in 'cold war era'?

Onesuch A-4 Skyhawk gunsight explanation: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=24483&p=406737&hilit=gunsight+skyhawk#p406737

Other forum parts: viewtopic.php?f=46&t=57025&p=440490&hilit=gunsight+skyhawk#p440490
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viewtopic.php?f=46&t=53537&p=408732&hilit=gunsight+skyhawk#p408732
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downscroll from here: viewtopic.php?f=46&t=53537&p=379139&hilit=gunsight+skyhawk#p379139

Re: Gunning the Lightning

Unread postPosted: 04 Jul 2020, 11:37
by spazsinbad
An UpDated A-4M HUD - I'll have to download this PDF to check out the details: [Of course it is NOT now at this URL]
http://rapidshare.com/files/122551631/S ... kyhawk.pdf
Try this one: https://www.scribd.com/document/2835794 ... kyhawk-pdf (41Mb)

After finally downloading the above PDF I see that the A-4M HUD reference photo below could not be found so I DUNNO.
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Without finding on my own computer or downloading the above PDF I've found this alternate so a first graphic is from it.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/170140049/Sq ... k#download (PDF 13.5Mb)

Four page PDF from other sources from my LARGE 4.4Gb PDF online has better quality HUD photos & more info attached.