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Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontline..

Unread postPosted: 11 Aug 2017, 20:22
by bayernfan
Title: Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontlines, One Flight Test at a Time

https://www.f35.com/in-depth/detail/pre ... 0000739891

Is this the first time we saw F-35 with almost maximum external load in flight? (4*GBU-31, 2000lb, 2*AIM9X)? I assume it also carry 2*GBU-31+2*AIM120 internally at the same time. What a beast.

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Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 11 Aug 2017, 22:08
by sprstdlyscottsmn
The list of planes that can carry a FLIR, IRST, EW, 6 GBU-31a and 4 AAMs is a short one. Like, three aircraft short. F-35A, F-35C, and F-15E.

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 11 Aug 2017, 22:15
by SpudmanWP
Even then the F-15E would have to give up a droptank of fuel to do it

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Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 11 Aug 2017, 22:49
by sprstdlyscottsmn
SpudmanWP wrote:Even then the F-15E would have to give up a droptank of fuel to do it

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And apparently the two wing tanks were ALWAYS carried in the Stan.

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 11 Aug 2017, 23:47
by ricnunes
And in that configuration the F-15E carries 5 x 2000lb bombs (GBU-10) in the image seen above while the F-35 can carry 6 x 2000lb bombs (GBU-31) as seen on the photo above - It's still one more 2000lb bomb than the F-15E :wink:

This also serves for the critics who often claim that the F-35 cannot carry a big weapons loadout :doh:

Well, so far I'm yet to see any fighter aircraft able to carry 6 x 2000lb bombs.

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 12 Aug 2017, 00:55
by bojack_horseman
Impressive shot.

The Lightning is a remarkable aircraft in what can be fit within such a small footprint.
At the very very max:
- 2 x 5,000lb bombs
- 4 x 2,000lb bombs
- 4 x AAMs

And somehow it can cram in 18,000lbs of fuel.

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 12 Aug 2017, 01:59
by sferrin
ricnunes wrote:And in that configuration the F-15E carries 5 x 2000lb bombs (GBU-10) in the image seen above while the F-35 can carry 6 x 2000lb bombs (GBU-31) as seen on the photo above - It's still one more 2000lb bomb than the F-15E :wink:

This also serves for the critics who often claim that the F-35 cannot carry a big weapons loadout :doh:

Well, so far I'm yet to see any fighter aircraft able to carry 6 x 2000lb bombs.


How about a Typhoon?

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 12 Aug 2017, 05:26
by neptune
sferrin wrote:
ricnunes wrote:And in that configuration the F-15E carries 5 x 2000lb bombs (GBU-10) in the image seen above while the F-35 can carry 6 x 2000lb bombs (GBU-31) as seen on the photo above - It's still one more 2000lb bomb than the F-15E :wink:

This also serves for the critics who often claim that the F-35 cannot carry a big weapons loadout :doh:

Well, so far I'm yet to see any fighter aircraft able to carry 6 x 2000lb bombs.


How about a Typhoon?


16,530lbs. (weapons) to MTOW, but no idea as to the max weight for each hardpoint. Care to enlighten me?
:)

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 12 Aug 2017, 05:57
by SpudmanWP
When people think of a Eurofighter with 6 large bombs, they think of this:

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Those are 1000lb Paveway2's, not 2k bombs.

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 12 Aug 2017, 06:01
by popcorn
The Typhoon carries Storm Shadow which weighs 1300Kg. Unknown if all pylons are similarly rated.

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 12 Aug 2017, 11:12
by gtg947h
I was wondering when they were going to get around to this one...

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 12 Aug 2017, 13:33
by count_to_10
I wonder how the platforms in question compare kinematicly with that kind of load.

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 12 Aug 2017, 14:51
by cantaz
popcorn wrote:The Typhoon carries Storm Shadow which weighs 1300Kg. Unknown if all pylons are similarly rated.


They can only carry Storm Shadows on two, maybe the stations. And those would be the wet stations.

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 12 Aug 2017, 15:35
by talkitron
ricnunes wrote:Well, so far I'm yet to see any fighter aircraft able to carry 6 x 2000lb bombs.


The F-35's load is impressive. The Su-34 is a large fighter class aircraft with a focus on ground attack. The chart below says it can carry three 1500kg (3307 lbs) bombs, which at 9921 lbs is less weight than the 12,000 lbs from six 2000 lb bombs.

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http://airrecognition.com/index.php?id=1721

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 12 Aug 2017, 17:49
by viper12
To be fair, if I'm not mistaken, the loadout with 12x something would be 500kg each, so 6,000kg. The 6x 2,000lb loadout on the F-35A/C would be around 6x 907kg = 5,442kg, so slightly lighter, nominally.

But that's very very impressive to have about the same maximum loadout with the F-35A/C as the Su-34, especially when one considers the F-35A's loaded weight is a bit lighter than the Su-34's...empty weight !