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Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 18 Nov 2017, 03:54
by playloud
jetblast16 wrote:Beast Mode...that's a lot of slammers :shock:

Not quite yet though. That's counting 6 internal, which isn't a thing yet.

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 18 Nov 2017, 11:27
by kimjongnumbaun
playloud wrote:
jetblast16 wrote:Beast Mode...that's a lot of slammers :shock:

Not quite yet though. That's counting 6 internal, which isn't a thing yet.


The drawback is that bitch isn't going far with that loadout.

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 18 Nov 2017, 11:43
by mas
spazsinbad wrote:https://www.f35.com/about/carrytheload & https://www.f35.com/about/carrytheload/weaponry

I count 14 aamrams in beast mode. How are 10 external aamrams carried on 4 pylons when the other 2 pylons are used for sidewinders ? I know the super hornet can carry a pair of aamrams on a wing pylon but a triple too ?

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 18 Nov 2017, 15:19
by krorvik
The graphic very likely counts six interal slammers, then you'd have 4x2 on pylons in addition to the 9xs. Adds up nicely.

The six internal amraam is currently nearing operational testing according to tu.no - https://www.tu.no/artikler/kun-ett-krys ... erg/412047

(Norwegian artilcle, use google for translation)

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 19 Nov 2017, 00:34
by wrightwing
playloud wrote:
jetblast16 wrote:Beast Mode...that's a lot of slammers :shock:

Not quite yet though. That's counting 6 internal, which isn't a thing yet.

4 internal. 10 external.

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 19 Nov 2017, 00:53
by SpudmanWP
kimjongnumbaun wrote:The drawback is that bitch isn't going far with that loadout.
Still much, much further than the SH when it carries it's max AAM load.

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 19 Nov 2017, 01:08
by ricnunes
wrightwing wrote:
playloud wrote:
jetblast16 wrote:Beast Mode...that's a lot of slammers :shock:

Not quite yet though. That's counting 6 internal, which isn't a thing yet.

4 internal. 10 external.


I don't think so.

It's more like:
- 6 x internal AMRAAMs (To be or being implemented)
- 8 x external AMRAAMs (Dual Missile Rails per each external pylon -> 4 external wing pylons x 2 AMRAAMs = 8 AMRAAMs total)
Totalling 14 AMRAAMs

Plus 2 x AIM-9Xs carried on the outer wing pylons which if I'm not mistaken can only carry (or are only certified to carry) Sidewinders (AIM-9Xs) and not AMRAAMs.

Totalling 16 missiles!! (14 AMRAAMs + 2 Sidewinders) :shock:

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 19 Nov 2017, 01:53
by spazsinbad
Get it on - bang a gong - get it on.... (6 internal later) http://www.slideshare.net/robbinlaird/f ... s/download

download/file.php?id=16071&t=1

& bigga bwana screenshot with '6 infernals from fillum': http://i.imgur.com/twmK3rH.jpg

Lockheed Martin - F-35 Lightning II Experience [720p].mp4 4 second edit of video below:



Image


Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 19 Nov 2017, 02:17
by wrightwing
Actually, the AMRAAM load out shouldn't be too awful, for range/endurance. Considerably less weight/drag, than an A2G load out. I'd be curious to see the radius with 6 JDAMs, 2 -120s, and 2 -9Xs.

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 20 Nov 2017, 12:58
by ricnunes
wrightwing wrote:Actually, the AMRAAM load out shouldn't be too awful, for range/endurance. Considerably less weight/drag, than an A2G load out. I'd be curious to see the radius with 6 JDAMs, 2 -120s, and 2 -9Xs.


Exactly.
And this specially considering the large amount of internal fuel that the F-35 carries :wink:

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 20 Nov 2017, 17:33
by sprstdlyscottsmn
ricnunes wrote:
wrightwing wrote:Actually, the AMRAAM load out shouldn't be too awful, for range/endurance. Considerably less weight/drag, than an A2G load out. I'd be curious to see the radius with 6 JDAMs, 2 -120s, and 2 -9Xs.


Exactly.
And this specially considering the large amount of internal fuel that the F-35 carries :wink:


I'm working on it

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 29 Dec 2017, 19:24
by KamenRiderBlade
If those 4x external Hard Points can carry a 2,000 lb JDAM each!

I'm surprised somebody at LM hasn't worked out a external pylon that can carry:
3x AMRAAM pylon = 335 lb x 3 = 1,005 lb
4x AMRAAM pylon = 335 lb x 4 = 1,340 lb
5x AMRAAM pylon = 335 lb x 5 = 1,675 lb

If you don't need stealth and are maxing number of AA missiles, why not add in more missiles?

Then you can go for more than 14x AMRAAM's:
3x Ext Pylon's: 6x Internal + 12x External = 18x AMRAAMS
4x Ext Pylon's: 6x Internal + 16x External = 22x AMRAAMS
5x Ext Pylon's: 6x Internal + 20x External = 26x AMRAAMS

Granted that is going to reduce Range, but that is a given if you plan on shooting that many things out of the sky

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 29 Dec 2017, 19:48
by castlebravo
KamenRiderBlade wrote:If those 4x external Hard Points can carry a 2,000 lb JDAM each!

I'm surprised somebody at LM hasn't worked out a external pylon that can carry:
3x AMRAAM pylon = 335 lb x 3 = 1,005 lb
4x AMRAAM pylon = 335 lb x 4 = 1,340 lb
5x AMRAAM pylon = 335 lb x 5 = 1,675 lb

If you don't need stealth and are maxing number of AA missiles, why not add in more missiles?

Then you can go for more than 14x AMRAAM's:
3x Ext Pylon's: 6x Internal + 12x External = 18x AMRAAMS
4x Ext Pylon's: 6x Internal + 16x External = 22x AMRAAMS
5x Ext Pylon's: 6x Internal + 20x External = 26x AMRAAMS

Granted that is going to reduce Range, but that is a given if you plan on shooting that many things out of the sky


There's no way those hard points are rated for 2klbs at 9g though. Carrying a butt load of slammers isn't as useful if you have to jettison them prior to performing any air combat maneuvering.

Re: Full load F-35--Preparing the Warfighter for the Frontli

Unread postPosted: 29 Dec 2017, 23:58
by KamenRiderBlade
castlebravo wrote:
KamenRiderBlade wrote:If those 4x external Hard Points can carry a 2,000 lb JDAM each!

I'm surprised somebody at LM hasn't worked out a external pylon that can carry:
3x AMRAAM pylon = 335 lb x 3 = 1,005 lb
4x AMRAAM pylon = 335 lb x 4 = 1,340 lb
5x AMRAAM pylon = 335 lb x 5 = 1,675 lb

If you don't need stealth and are maxing number of AA missiles, why not add in more missiles?

Then you can go for more than 14x AMRAAM's:
3x Ext Pylon's: 6x Internal + 12x External = 18x AMRAAMS
4x Ext Pylon's: 6x Internal + 16x External = 22x AMRAAMS
5x Ext Pylon's: 6x Internal + 20x External = 26x AMRAAMS

Granted that is going to reduce Range, but that is a given if you plan on shooting that many things out of the sky


There's no way those hard points are rated for 2klbs at 9g though. Carrying a butt load of slammers isn't as useful if you have to jettison them prior to performing any air combat maneuvering.


If you're the flying arsenal way out in the rear flanks, who's expecting you to pull 9g?

Have the person out in the front be the bait and pull 9g's should they foolishly get in a dog fight.