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This may be a place to start: viewtopic.php?f=54&t=53327&p=381386&hilit=krjS7f9T760#p381386
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spazsinbad wrote:This may be a place to start: viewtopic.php?f=54&t=53327&p=381386&hilit=krjS7f9T760#p381386
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Yes I remember that graphic on the video is from years ago. Bogdan’s statement was relatively recently. Really doesn’t answer the “how” anyway.
Looking at this actual mock up test, it seems clear (IMO) that having 6 internal AMRAAMs inside the both F-35 weapons bay (in the near future) is perfectly doable:
“Active stealth” is what the ignorant nay sayers call EW and pretend like it’s new.
krorvik wrote:I'm sure this is what you mean by "mock up test" - but to make sure noone interprets it wrong, the image is photoshopped of course.
Yes you're right, the image is indeed photoshopped.
However I believe that it shows (at least IMO) the feasibility of having 2xAMRAAMs in same place as 1xGBU-31, this inside the F-35 weapons bay.
Will this require some extra hardware work (namely regarding pylons)? Sure, but feasible it seems to be.
“Active stealth” is what the ignorant nay sayers call EW and pretend like it’s new.
What is the diameter difference between an SDBII and the AIM-120C7?
Since two SDB's can fitt side by side, then unless the AMRAAM is bigger, it should be feasable without to much tidying in the bay. A suitable double ejector will obviously be needed.
Since two SDB's can fitt side by side, then unless the AMRAAM is bigger, it should be feasable without to much tidying in the bay. A suitable double ejector will obviously be needed.
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Even the F-22 uses a longitudinal offset for six missiles. The F-35 bays are bigger. It may need an offset for the fins, but there is no way they simply won't fit.
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Just a reminder, Lockheed (as of mid-November 2017) is close to beginning prototype testing of a solution:
By "operational testing" I'm pretty sure the original wording meant physical prototype testing on the ground. I would also be wary of reading too much into the "stacking AMRAAM missiles on top of each other" statement.
By "operational testing" I'm pretty sure the original wording meant physical prototype testing on the ground. I would also be wary of reading too much into the "stacking AMRAAM missiles on top of each other" statement.
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Stacking missiles on top of each other...
Wasn't that a big concern for the YF-23? I seem to recall a concern being voiced by the USAF concerning that arrangement jamming. In any case, I can't wait for the F-35 to get 6 AMRAAM's.
Wasn't that a big concern for the YF-23? I seem to recall a concern being voiced by the USAF concerning that arrangement jamming. In any case, I can't wait for the F-35 to get 6 AMRAAM's.
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mixelflick wrote:Stacking missiles on top of each other...
Wasn't that a big concern for the YF-23? I seem to recall a concern being voiced by the USAF concerning that arrangement jamming. In any case, I can't wait for the F-35 to get 6 AMRAAM's.
Different context than with the YF-23 layout. The F-35 uses a horizontal layout vs vertical.
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Looks like "stacking" could be diagonal to take advantage of the depth of the bay designed for larger diameter ordinance (a cross between side-by-side and above-and-below). The ejection mechanisms could both be ejecting in the same direction more or less side-by-side (but stair-stepped relative to one another in elevation--or like Olympic medal podium if looking at all three missiles). The mechanisms would not interfere with one another and prevent jamming, but release would need to be sequenced.
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spazsinbad wrote:This may be a place to start: viewtopic.php?f=54&t=53327&p=381386&hilit=krjS7f9T760#p381386
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At least that is what I see in the picture spazsinbad posted.
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