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aussiebloke

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Unread post08 Aug 2019, 06:37

magitsu wrote:
Classic JASSM is probably unavailable without redesign due to turbine manufacturer Teledyne leaving the business.


According to the DoD’s FY2020 budget papers “The last JASSM-Baseline was delivered on 20 December 18“.

All subsequent deliveries of JASSM are either JASSM-ER or from October 2022 the AGM-158D (this appears to be what was previously referred to as JASSM-XR or JASSM Extended Range).
https://apps.dtic.mil/procurement/Y2020 ... B_2020.pdf
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Unread post08 Aug 2019, 08:45

magitsu wrote:Classic JASSM is probably unavailable without redesign due to turbine manufacturer Teledyne leaving the business. Same turbine (Teledyne CAE J402-CA-100) was apparently in certain other missiles too (Harpoon?). It probably could use WDL aka 2-way datalink from -ER too at the same time.

But the family is looking at increased demand (new factory in Alabama), so they will be developed further.
https://www.defenseone.com/business/201 ... les/158943


Yes, saw that story on the JASSM production expansion. Good news, plus demand expressed for more LRASM.

Brit F-35B won't be able to carry JSM, JSOW-C1 or JSOW-ER internally, external only, so they may have to develop some internal alternative to JSOW-C1 carried on the A and C.

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timmymagic wrote:SmartGlider Heavy though is interesting. The UK needs a a heavier weapon that PWIV with its 500lb warhead. EPWIII and PWII are not going to be carried by F-35 for the UK and the UK lacks a longer range gliding weapon. The template for SmartGlider Heavy should be JSOW. A weapon with modular payloads would be very useful.
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Unread post08 Aug 2019, 09:08

aussiebloke wrote:According to the DoD’s FY2020 budget papers “The last JASSM-Baseline was delivered on 20 December 18“.


JASSM's claimed range is ~370 km while Kongsberg claims 500 km for JSM, which has proper NSM-like anti-ship capabilities too. So that's most likely the next general-purpose stealth cruise strike weapon from here. Japan made a $71 million USD order in March for an unknown number of JSM.
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Unread post08 Aug 2019, 19:05

magitsu wrote:It probably could use WDL aka 2-way datalink from -ER too at the same time.


It was dropped from -ER a decade ago.
LRASM has it and it might find its way back onto the rest of the family.

Has anyone actually found a reliable unit cost for JSM? The 250+ nm range, ~ $500k unit cost
category seems to be pretty vacant aside from JSOW-ER.
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Unread post10 Aug 2019, 19:00

element1loop wrote:JASSM's claimed range is ~370 km while Kongsberg claims 500 km for JSM, which has proper NSM-like anti-ship capabilities too. So that's most likely the next general-purpose stealth cruise strike weapon from here. Japan made a $71 million USD order in March for an unknown number of JSM.

I think Japan is buying JSM to be able to sink Chinese ships, it's got a warhead appropriate for taking ships out of action more than being a general purpose cruise missile. JASSM-ER can go 925km with a 1,000lb warhead, which gives it a lot more land attack applications than JSM.
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Unread post10 Sep 2019, 17:55

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