SDB II Scores Hits in Flight Tests

F-35 Armament, fuel tanks, internal and external hardpoints, loadouts, and other stores.
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by SpudmanWP » 18 Aug 2019, 01:03

Just for Reference..
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by fidgetspinner » 18 Aug 2019, 21:11

These attachments are really great :P

Is there any information as to what the max loadout for the internal and external carry of the F-35 would be for just having JDAM-ERs? Just curious as to what mission requirements the F-35 can achieve against SAM systems


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by marauder2048 » 19 Aug 2019, 00:04

squirrelshoes wrote:
It would be gut wrenching from an economics perspective firing expensive SAMs at gliding JDAMs.


Why would you need expensive SAMs to defeat unpowered glide munitions?


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by sferrin » 19 Aug 2019, 03:18

SpudmanWP wrote:Just for Reference..


What's the latest on winged/powered JDAMs? Do you know if there are any plans to procure?
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by SpudmanWP » 19 Aug 2019, 03:55

Nothing in the US budget as far as I know.
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by weasel1962 » 19 Aug 2019, 03:58

At least to the Australians since production started in 2015.
https://twitter.com/boeingdefense/statu ... 0364552192

The wingkit (designated as BSU-104) is also acquired by USAF for the quickstrike aerial mine program.


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by marauder2048 » 19 Aug 2019, 05:03

The Navy also has an unfunded priorities request for Quickstrike-ER.

Which means the Navy will be purchasing two different wingkits (ALA for HAAWC)
for air-to-subsurface weapons though ALA is (notionally) supposed to have a datalink.


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by squirrelshoes » 19 Aug 2019, 05:36

marauder2048 wrote:Why would you need expensive SAMs to defeat unpowered glide munitions?

SAMs are usually expensive, and they are launched at incoming flying munitions.


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by marauder2048 » 19 Aug 2019, 06:41

squirrelshoes wrote:
marauder2048 wrote:Why would you need expensive SAMs to defeat unpowered glide munitions?

SAMs are usually expensive, and they are launched at incoming flying munitions.


Welcome to begging the question.


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by squirrelshoes » 19 Aug 2019, 07:35

I guess I don't understand what you're getting at here, or better said I don't know why you're confused as to why an expensive SAM would be launched at an incoming glide weapon.


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by marauder2048 » 19 Aug 2019, 09:45

squirrelshoes wrote:I guess I don't understand what you're getting at here, or better said I don't know why you're confused as to why an expensive SAM would be launched at an incoming glide weapon.


An opponent capable of readily detecting and engaging glide weapons is likely to have a firing doctrine
and an interceptor inventory that doesn't result in disproportionately expensive engagements.


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by weasel1962 » 19 Aug 2019, 09:53

Iron dome, anyone?


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by squirrelshoes » 19 Aug 2019, 13:59

marauder2048 wrote:An opponent capable of readily detecting and engaging glide weapons is likely to have a firing doctrine and an interceptor inventory that doesn't result in disproportionately expensive engagements.

Let's take Iran, for example. If Israel engaged in a strike against some important Iranian facility, say nine F-35s each putting 2 JDAM-ERs into the air from 40 miles away, what does Iran doctrine does Iran follow to engage them?


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by wrightwing » 19 Aug 2019, 16:25

That's kind of the entire point of inexpensive glide weapons. The defender is going to be using a much more expensive weapon, to intercept the incoming weapons, lest they lose an even more expensive high value target (or the SAM battery, for that matter.) It's easier to saturate with inexpensive weapons.


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by sferrin » 19 Aug 2019, 16:31

marauder2048 wrote:
squirrelshoes wrote:I guess I don't understand what you're getting at here, or better said I don't know why you're confused as to why an expensive SAM would be launched at an incoming glide weapon.


An opponent capable of readily detecting and engaging glide weapons is likely to have a firing doctrine
and an interceptor inventory that doesn't result in disproportionately expensive engagements.


TOR is designed to be as cheap as possible, and still get the job done. All the brains are on the chassis. IIRC the thing is command guided. Don't know if it makes the missiles cheaper than JDAMs though.
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