F-35 unconventional tactics - your ideas?

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Unread post09 Nov 2018, 23:14

markithere wrote:I am not sure how useful this would be however here it is. If we know the amount of certain types of weapons an enemy has would there be any benefit in showing it on the screen in such away as if they have 10 AAA in inventory and the plane spots 6 of them could there be a benefit for the pilot knowing that he can target and destroy 60% of the enemy’s resources? Would seeing this have helped with tactics for any of you squadron commanders of flight wings? Forgive me if I stated the wing structure incorrectly. Now if you think they have 10 but the sensors show 15 would knowing this or seeing this discrepancy help commanders?

I think it would be more useful knowing the bad guys, regardless of how many there are and how many AAMs they may have, are unlikely to even detect a 5gen a/c, let alone attack it.
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Unread post10 Nov 2018, 01:21

Slightly different idea: If the radar or AEOTS could one day not only autonomously determine aircraft type, but also their loadout, that would benefit the pilot in deciding whether it would be wise to advance to WVR, or whether an aircraft poses a real danger to ground forces.
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Unread post15 Jan 2019, 20:26

markithere wrote:You could use the DAS system from two planes flying in formation to create a stereoscopic image of the surrounding area. At the same time increase the resolution capability to twice what is achieved by a single plane. Similar to cameras that take and stitch together multiple images to create a super hires image. Doing this will increase what is possible with more than one plane. Google superresolution photos with photoshop for more on this.b

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Unread post16 Jan 2019, 00:57

markithere wrote:
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Tactically why bother? All you need is PID and a continuous target-grade vector that's fed to weapons and to a network. EOTS is already a telescopic video camera with a high-res sensor for PID, and also for seeing what the bandit carries from BVR radius. Distributed wingmen will get other angles as they flank. Plus the DAS is already a constantly scanning search-system that 'stitches' a data picture of PIDs and vectors, A2A and A2G, over terrain and sky imagery. At that point it's the data you'd want, the terrain and sky imagery is then just for proper SA and orientation, to plan and execute the action. So why do you want more image details than you need, or can even assimilate, without just distracting yourself (and thus losing some SA in the process)?

What would actually be better than that is an upgraded DAS, and an upgraded EOTS, with improved algos to operate them, and more computer power for much better SA radius, through the systems to be able to cope with all the extra contacts and updating and ranging tasks within the resulting much larger volume of airspace to be addressed by each 5th-gen aloft, i.e. what's already coming within the Block 4 upgrade period.

Which means a flight's physical distribution may be even more open, SA that much better, using aggressive tactics that would be all the more dominant even compared to the FOC 3F version.

As for 3D imagery, SAR can generate that at lower-res already. But do you need that within a moving tactical cockpit, with the DAS view in the helmet which is providing an actual 'stitched' real-time 3D world view?

What is needed much more in the tactical sense is a fused multi-spectral high-res close-up, but from stand-off radius, to confirm that the selected target is the right target, and also not just a clever decoy.
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Unread post13 Feb 2019, 18:57

With the computer and MADL system code can be written so that link 16 can be used by aircraft in full stealth mode. In the area where ful stealth is needed they can send data or message using link 16 overlay. The MADL system actually transmits it and it will auto pass that information from f-35 to f-35 till it is in an area rearage no longer requiring stealth and that f-35 auto sends the message via link 16. They can call it stealth 16. This can be auto used when the plane goes into communication stealthed mode. The pilot just uses link 16 like he would normally. The planes would take care of the rest. Or he could simply select stealth 16 and initiate the MADL system that way keeping him stealthed by active choice in a non stealth needed area.
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Unread post13 Feb 2019, 19:07

What about SAT16?

As they, or when they implement satellite link... I presume they are going to implement an LPI waveform to/from the satellites. Then you can just encode your Link16 to the satellite, and it will be automagically routed to whoever needs it... either via other satellites, or to other aircraft for relay, maybe even a high flying UAV (Global Hawk or ?) with the necessary radio links, stealthy or not, as required.
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Unread post13 Feb 2019, 19:10

steve2267 wrote:What about SAT16?

As they, or when they implement satellite link... I presume they are going to implement an LPI waveform to/from the satellites. Then you can just encode your Link16 to the satellite, and it will be automagically routed to whoever needs it... either via other satellites, or to other aircraft for relay, maybe even a high flying UAV (Global Hawk or ?) with the necessary radio links, stealthy or not, as required.



Add that in too. Why? Because the more roads available means more targets the enemy needs to try to disrupt.
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