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Snowbird crashed today

Unread postPosted: 18 May 2020, 02:02
by awsome
Snowbird crashed today in Kamloops BC.. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.5573930

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Unread postPosted: 18 May 2020, 12:23
by Scorpion1alpha
Condolences to the family of Jenn Casey for their loss.

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Unread postPosted: 18 May 2020, 12:30
by popcorn
Such a sad tragedy. RIP.

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Unread postPosted: 18 May 2020, 14:53
by mixelflick
Better off in the mishaps section, as they're nothing modern about the Snowbirds aircraft.

Having said that, terrible tragedy for sure. I didn't know Canada had women flying in their military, will be interesting to hear what the accident investigation board finds..

Re: Snowbird crashed today

Unread postPosted: 19 May 2020, 13:02
by spazsinbad
Snowbirds CL41 Tutor Crash 17 May 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10Og_7sqU7s


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Snowbird CT-114 from Kamloops crash Brocklehurst 17 May 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHcPhNhW7Qk


Re: Snowbird crashed today

Unread postPosted: 19 May 2020, 21:53
by spazsinbad
Former Snowbird Pilot Analyzes Crash Footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl7qOY2-o_Y


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Unread postPosted: 20 May 2020, 01:30
by spazsinbad
"Published on Jul 6, 2011 BigfootMk120
"In this video one can clearly see the difference between an ejection that only uses power cartridges (as in the older ejection seats) [includes TUTOR] and a "new generation" seat that uses booster rockets as well. Notice how the seat separates from the dummy before impact with the rocket assisted ejection. The seat will typically stay attached to the pilot above 10 000ft to provide oxygen, and then automatically detach and fall away when the pilot descends below that altitude.

The seat in the Mirage F1 that inadvertently ejected Maj Arthur Piercy at AFB Rundu in the 80's (read "Vlamgat" by Gen Dick Lord), did not have rockets to assist the ejection, as was normal for that generation of ejection seats. Those ejection seats required a specific forward speed (typically 60 knots), as well as a minimum altitude for a safe ejection.

The Astra, Hawk Mk120 and Gripen aircraft all are equipped with rocket assisted Martin Baker Mk10 ejection seats, for which you don't need any forward speed or altitude ("Zero-Zero" ejection seats)."

Ejection Seat Comparison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1cnvJO1TF8 [USE THIS TEXT URL]


Re: Snowbird crashed today

Unread postPosted: 22 May 2020, 05:14
by spazsinbad
Snowbirds Tutor CT-114 Crash Ejection 17 May '20 Information https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjGPh1I0ULk


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Unread postPosted: 01 Jun 2020, 21:02
by spazsinbad
Snowbird investigation focusing on possible bird strike before fatal crash
01 Jun 2020 Murray Brewster

"Canadian air force crash investigators are looking at a bird strike as the probable cause of the crash of a Snowbird demonstration jet in Kamloops, British Columbia last month. The accident killed Capt. Jenn Casey, the public affairs officer for the aerobatics team.

In a preliminary report issued Monday, investigators say video footage from the crash showed a bird was in very close proximity to the right engine intake during take-off. It's possible the bird struck the engine's intake, the report suggested...."

PHOTOS (top & btm): https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org ... 56ea75.png & https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org ... a75188.png

Source: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/snowbi ... -1.5593259

XtraPhot: https://aerobaticteams.net/sys/pic_slid ... A1C9FA.jpg

Re: Snowbird crashed today

Unread postPosted: 15 Jun 2020, 22:47
by spazsinbad
AAaaahhh the PERFECT BAND AID SEAT solution that has not been implemented. The people at the top are just criminals.

The current seat is old with old ejection parameters so the fatal pax ejection may have been outside old seat parameters.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national ... 0bd0f/amp/

Re: Snowbird crashed today

Unread postPosted: 16 Jun 2020, 00:41
by Corsair1963
The aircraft should have been retired long ago. Most are 55 -60 years old.... :|

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Unread postPosted: 16 Jun 2020, 02:28
by spazsinbad
WARbird Heaven: The ROYAL & Ancient Canuckian Air FARCE.

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Unread postPosted: 01 Jul 2020, 02:26
by spazsinbad
Sadly SnowBirds have shitty old ejection seats: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatch ... -1.5631647

Re: Snowbird crashed today

Unread postPosted: 14 Jul 2020, 07:35
by huggy
Corsair1963 wrote:The aircraft should have been retired long ago. Most are 55 -60 years old.... :|


You and Spazsinbad are both talking about issues you really know nothing about. And of which you have very little grasp of reality.

Re: Snowbird crashed today

Unread postPosted: 14 Jul 2020, 13:45
by spazsinbad
Pray tell us what you know then. Are you a pilot? Have you been a pilot? Have you flown old jet aircraft such as the Vampire with Martin-Baker Mk.3B whatever ejection seats with minimum height minimum airspeed limits so turnbacks (hopefully to a cross runway) were practiced regularly and low height whilst gaining airspeed takeoffs were the norm?