building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 29 Oct 2009, 13:36
by pquispea_m5
hi everyone i started with my project. it is an RC F16 1:5 scale. i hope you like it. i accept any opinions and share techniques and skills. at this moment i´ve prepared the sections of the intake and forward fuselage. i´ve aligned it with aluminium tubes 15mm dia. and frames that they help to avoid the torsion of sections.

greets,
pablo

Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 31 Oct 2009, 13:48
by pquispea_m5
all formers of the forward fuselage are aligned and ready to be glued.

greets,
pablo

RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 04 Nov 2009, 04:43
by Habu
That looks great, but how are you going to make the shell? Lay up fiberglass?

RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 04 Nov 2009, 16:53
by pquispea_m5
thanks habu,

for the original model i´ll use balsa sheet, then it will be covered with a thin layer of fiberglass and finally with aluminium sheet 0.3mm.

i don't know yet if i´ll use lay up fiberglass for the mold and final model, i´m looking for a tecnique that make the best copy of the original model

greets,
pablo

Re: RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 10 Nov 2009, 03:47
by pquispea_m5
some details of forward part and items for plugins aligned with the intake.

greets,
pablo

RE: Re: RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 10 Nov 2009, 04:16
by Habu
Coming along, looking good.

Re: RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 10 Nov 2009, 18:04
by kiabowie
pquispea_m5 wrote:thanks habu,

for the original model i´ll use balsa sheet, then it will be covered with a thin layer of fiberglass and finally with aluminium sheet 0.3mm.

i don't know yet if i´ll use lay up fiberglass for the mold and final model, i´m looking for a tecnique that make the best copy of the original model

greets,
pablo


It is the best way for copying any object, especially your F16. The first layer has to be gellcoat, after that you can use epoxy with fiberglass. I am going to this the same way.
I think that I will cover the plug also with thin alu. It is a lot off work but the end result will be super I think.

Greets,
Peter

Re: RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 25 Nov 2009, 02:13
by pquispea_m5
and here it is... the central module structure.

greets,
pablo

Re: RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 07 Dec 2009, 02:13
by pquispea_m5
At last the four modules are ready to be sheeting. little by little the kid is growing.

greets,
Pablo

RE: Re: RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 08 Dec 2009, 19:47
by kiabowie
Looks familiar :wink: , super Pablo! Doe you know a site where I can find details of the engine?
This week I am going to try to laminate the underside of the fuselage.
Keep up the good work :thumb: .

Greets,
Peter

RE: Re: RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 09 Dec 2009, 00:53
by pquispea_m5

RE: Re: RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 09 Dec 2009, 20:36
by kiabowie
Super!! Thanks a lot, exacly what I need for making a scale nozzle, (working).

Greets,
Peter

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 14 Dec 2009, 01:12
by pquispea_m5
more pics...

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 20 Dec 2009, 08:07
by Habu
Looks great, but how heavy is that thing now?

Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 20 Dec 2009, 14:11
by pquispea_m5
Habu wrote:Looks great, but how heavy is that thing now?


thanks habu, i dont know how heavy it is, maybe 10-15kg at the moment. for this the weigth is not important but for the final model made with fiber glass this is important and must weigth around 20kg on take off.

greets,
Pablo

RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 20 Dec 2009, 19:59
by parrothead
Pablo,

This is looking like a great project! It reminds me of someone who built an SR-71 the same way which is now flying with jet power :) Have you seen this one yet? http://www.mmrca.org/lance/sledframe.html

Re: RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 21 Dec 2009, 01:56
by pquispea_m5
parrothead wrote:Pablo,

This is looking like a great project! It reminds me of someone who built an SR-71 the same way which is now flying with jet power :) Have you seen this one yet? http://www.mmrca.org/lance/sledframe.html


hi parrothead, yes i have time ago. that project was amazing. it took a long time. project like this inspire me to build mine :thumb:

greets,
Pablo

RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 22 Dec 2009, 21:27
by kiabowie
Hi Pablo, where is the tail section? Do you have a different drawing for it? Looks good I see that you also have installed the 'ribs' for the fentral vins.
Do you know a site for speedbrake drawings perhaps.
I am making the intake this week and glue it on the plug so I can laminate the underside.

Greets,
Peter

Re: RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 28 Dec 2009, 01:09
by pquispea_m5
kiabowie wrote:Hi Pablo, where is the tail section? Do you have a different drawing for it? Looks good I see that you also have installed the 'ribs' for the fentral vins.
Do you know a site for speedbrake drawings perhaps.
I am making the intake this week and glue it on the plug so I can laminate the underside.

Greets,
Peter


the tail section? i don´t have space the door is little :( . if you refer about brakes i´ll use the same speedbrake form that we have in the drawing.

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 29 Dec 2009, 19:51
by pquispea_m5
greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 29 Dec 2009, 21:35
by kiabowie
:notworthy: :crazypilot: Super. I ment a working speedbrake, is not on my drawing. Which bulkhead is the one for the gear? (nr)
Are you going to put flares in the F16? We are, Gerald and I. We have to test what possible is, you dont want a fire cracker in it when you are flying haha.
Greets, Peter

Unread postPosted: 30 Dec 2009, 15:44
by bk974
wow....What a project...amazing, I bow my head in respect for people who venture in to this kind of visions...

Unread postPosted: 31 Dec 2009, 00:37
by pquispea_m5
bk974 wrote:wow....What a project...amazing, I bow my head in respect for people who venture in to this kind of visions...


thanks

Unread postPosted: 01 Jan 2010, 16:16
by pquispea_m5
greets and Happy New Year.
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 02 Jan 2010, 08:55
by kiabowie
:notworthy: :applause:

Happy new year,
Peter

Unread postPosted: 06 Jan 2010, 01:31
by pquispea_m5
greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 10 Jan 2010, 16:41
by pquispea_m5
greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 15 Jan 2010, 06:48
by Habu
And to think I'm building just a 1/5 Cub right now, out of a kit! Shaping up good!

Unread postPosted: 15 Jan 2010, 22:13
by pquispea_m5
Habu wrote:And to think I'm building just a 1/5 Cub right now, out of a kit! Shaping up good!


More pics...

Greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 28 Jan 2010, 17:46
by kiabowie
No more pictures??? :?:

Greeets,
Peter

Unread postPosted: 28 Jan 2010, 21:07
by pquispea_m5
Hi Peter,
Next week i will have some intesting pics. I continue sheeting the fuselage and canopy and i´m working on the trim and center of gravity of the plane to avoid innecesary ballast.
greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 28 Jan 2010, 21:30
by kiabowie
Looks very hitech Pablo. Super, doe you have good data for panel lines? Im using drawings from a book of DACO products.

Greets,
Peter

Unread postPosted: 30 Jan 2010, 15:06
by pquispea_m5
kiabowie wrote:Looks very hitech Pablo. Super, doe you have good data for panel lines? Im using drawings from a book of DACO products.

Greets,
Peter


For panels line i have the same publication: Locheed Martin F16 ABCD from DACO. Another is good: F16 CD Block 52 advanced by Grzegorz Okonski.
Also you have many pictures from this site:
http://www.f-16.net/gallery_item45606.html

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 30 Jan 2010, 21:28
by JoeSambor
From the looks of the pictures taken in the kitchen, I am betting your wife is probably unhappy with this little project...

Best Regards,

Unread postPosted: 31 Jan 2010, 01:11
by pquispea_m5
JoeSambor wrote:From the looks of the pictures taken in the kitchen, I am betting your wife is probably unhappy with this little project...

Best Regards,


jajaja yes my sister was at the begining because the kitchen is hers but when the jet took shape she was agree and she like it. 2.91m next to the refrigerator :D

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 31 Jan 2010, 23:09
by JoeSambor
You're going to have to get a bigger kitchen when you attach the wings...

...or have a very interesting kitchen table.

Best Regards,

Unread postPosted: 01 Feb 2010, 00:43
by pquispea_m5
the kitchen is provisional. for assembly and fiber glass building i'm thinking to go to my cousin's house. she has a big yard.

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 01 Feb 2010, 01:26
by Habu
Oh man, that fiberglass stage is gonna be interesting to see, my friend! Keep at it!

Unread postPosted: 01 Feb 2010, 01:31
by pquispea_m5
Habu wrote:Oh man, that fiberglass stage is gonna be interesting to see, my friend! Keep at it!


All in a good time :thumb:

Unread postPosted: 04 Feb 2010, 03:30
by pquispea_m5
working...Habu i want to know if the picture links are lost by the time and cannot to see it anyway???. í've seen many thread that picture links are lost.
greets
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 04 Feb 2010, 03:45
by Habu
Almost like building a ship! Blank on bulkhead, I like that.

Unread postPosted: 05 Feb 2010, 20:20
by jpvieira
Amazing work! Congratulations

Unread postPosted: 06 Feb 2010, 09:42
by kiabowie
Super job Pablo :applause: I just started filling the glasfiber fuselage with epoxy filler so after a few times filling and sanding I will put some pictures on the forum. Copied a drawing from Lock On in CAD to redraw the panel lines so i can mesure them out on the plug. Lots of work.
Made new wings and tail because the balsa sheeting was to soft. The wing and elevator tips are so thin so I now used a stronger wood for surfacing, they don'have to fly.
Greets,
Peter

Unread postPosted: 06 Feb 2010, 13:52
by pquispea_m5
kiabowie wrote:Super job Pablo :applause: I just started filling the glasfiber fuselage with epoxy filler so after a few times filling and sanding I will put some pictures on the forum. Copied a drawing from Lock On in CAD to redraw the panel lines so i can mesure them out on the plug. Lots of work.
Made new wings and tail because the balsa sheeting was to soft. The wing and elevator tips are so thin so I now used a stronger wood for surfacing, they don'have to fly.
Greets,
Peter


Hi Peter,
are you going to change the wing section at the root with this modification?

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 06 Feb 2010, 20:10
by kiabowie
There are no changes on the new wings they are having now the thiknes of the ribs on the drawing. Very thin tips.

Greets, peter

Unread postPosted: 07 Feb 2010, 01:49
by pquispea_m5
kiabowie wrote:There are no changes on the new wings they are having now the thiknes of the ribs on the drawing. Very thin tips.

Greets, peter


ok. hope to see picture soon.

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 15 Feb 2010, 15:54
by pquispea_m5
greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 22 Feb 2010, 02:49
by pquispea_m5
greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 23 Feb 2010, 17:28
by kiabowie
I am waiting for more pictures :thumb: I am updating my cockpit, the original from 1975 is shorter dan the latest ones. Back to the drawing bord.
Greets

Unread postPosted: 23 Feb 2010, 17:37
by pquispea_m5
kiabowie wrote:I am waiting for more pictures :thumb: I am updating my cockpit, the original from 1975 is shorter dan the latest ones. Back to the drawing bord.
Greets


Peter, tell me the updating is just for your cockpit? and for mine?? :shock:

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 23 Feb 2010, 20:34
by kiabowie
Don't worry, just mine. :bang:.
Greets,
Peter

Unread postPosted: 28 Feb 2010, 06:36
by pquispea_m5
some radome sections are built with my new tool

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 28 Feb 2010, 10:04
by Habu
So you'll stack it like a wedding cake?

Unread postPosted: 01 Mar 2010, 02:06
by pquispea_m5
Habu wrote:So you'll stack it like a wedding cake?


the cake...

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 01 Mar 2010, 02:11
by Habu
Well that answers that! Is it foam or rennshape?

Unread postPosted: 01 Mar 2010, 02:23
by pquispea_m5
it is foam or extruded polystyrene

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 01 Mar 2010, 22:18
by pquispea_m5
more pics i think i need an urgent move to another place
greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 02 Mar 2010, 08:56
by Habu
Your nose looks a hell of a lot better than Kinetic's that's for sure!

Unread postPosted: 03 Mar 2010, 03:28
by pquispea_m5
thanks Habu.
As a modelist you are what parts of the f16 fusselage is the most complicate to reply in a model scale?. what points would you review in a model scale to give your approval? i refer to something you see that the others don't.

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 04 Mar 2010, 21:57
by pquispea_m5
working... see you in a few weeks.

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 08 Mar 2010, 02:55
by Habu
pquispea_m5 wrote:thanks Habu.
As a modelist you are what parts of the f16 fusselage is the most complicate to reply in a model scale?. what points would you review in a model scale to give your approval? i refer to something you see that the others don't.

greets,
Pablo


I wouldn't know for sure. I don't make molds for F-16 models, I just build the kits. But my guess would be the canopy, as it has the most compound curves.

Unread postPosted: 09 Mar 2010, 02:49
by pquispea_m5
thanks Habu, for example for me i take special interest on sharper borders like the entry of the fuselage near the nose. Also the transition of the sharper border with root profile and other is the aft fuselage. they are some of details i want to replay.

Unread postPosted: 09 Mar 2010, 10:59
by Habu
My suggestion would be to look at a Tamiya kit for insiration.

Unread postPosted: 10 Mar 2010, 02:08
by pquispea_m5
one more...

Greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 11 Mar 2010, 00:59
by pquispea_m5
practicing with aluminium and some details...

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 11 Mar 2010, 09:21
by Habu
And just what, pray tell, is that for?

Unread postPosted: 11 Mar 2010, 16:01
by pquispea_m5
Habu wrote:And just what, pray tell, is that for?


Hi Habu, it's just a proove. i try to get practice when i start to sheeting the plug with aluminium like the work of Mr Young C Park in his models.

http://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/park.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuq-lpDx ... re=related

Greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 11 Mar 2010, 16:54
by kiabowie
pquispea_m5 wrote:practicing with aluminium and some details...

greets,
Pablo


Hi Pablo, looking good. Do you know a adres for those tiny screws? We need two different sizes I think. Have made no progress, other things to do.
Greets,
Peter

Unread postPosted: 11 Mar 2010, 17:47
by pquispea_m5
kiabowie wrote:
pquispea_m5 wrote:practicing with aluminium and some details...

greets,
Pablo


Hi Pablo, looking good. Do you know a adres for those tiny screws? We need two different sizes I think. Have made no progress, other things to do.
Greets,
Peter


Hi Peter,
A frien give me these links:
http://www.microfasteners.com/
http://www.mickreevesmodels.co.uk/

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 18 Mar 2010, 03:39
by pquispea_m5
Greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2010, 21:57
by kiabowie
:thumb: Keep up the picktures. Im sanding and filling, flying this summer isn't realistick. But getting a model out off the plug must be possible, and you?
Greets,
Peter

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2010, 02:16
by pquispea_m5
kiabowie wrote::thumb: Keep up the picktures. Im sanding and filling, flying this summer isn't realistick. But getting a model out off the plug must be possible, and you?
Greets,
Peter


Well at this step I guess my first model will be at the end of this year (with few months of tolerance :wink: ) ready to work on rc f16. But the time is not important for me if i want a good model with good fairing and realistic details on it. So I hope you and Gerald keep up with good work i use yours as a guide for mine :notworthy: .

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 21 Mar 2010, 09:21
by kiabowie
Hi Pablo, this is also a site with little screws. www.microfastenings.com
Yesterday filled the underside again and it needed very little filler.
Greets,
Peter

Unread postPosted: 24 Mar 2010, 01:29
by pquispea_m5
Just need to finish the tummy to take a break ;)

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 28 Mar 2010, 03:17
by pquispea_m5
more...

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 28 Mar 2010, 10:57
by kiabowie
In a couple of wheeks you are further than me :thumb: looking great. Still tuning and sanding.
Greets,
Peter

Unread postPosted: 03 Apr 2010, 18:26
by pquispea_m5
greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 04 Apr 2010, 22:04
by kiabowie
:notworthy: :applause: Looking very good
greets peter

Unread postPosted: 15 Apr 2010, 12:46
by kiabowie
This is taking place 25 km away from my home:
http://www.milspotters.nl/forum/viewtop ... =19&t=4113

Super pictures.

Greets,
Peter

Unread postPosted: 17 Apr 2010, 18:15
by pquispea_m5
Nice pics Peter, thanks for share :thumb: . working on the canopy

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 19 Apr 2010, 18:30
by kiabowie
Looking good, perhaps later I wil make also a single CP on my dual plug.
Greets,
Peter

oh my!

Unread postPosted: 21 Apr 2010, 12:41
by leifern
I'm amazed. When will we see this bird flying?

Re: oh my!

Unread postPosted: 22 Apr 2010, 01:41
by pquispea_m5
leifern wrote:I'm amazed. When will we see this bird flying?


i hope very soon leifern. when that day come i will be very proud and greatfully

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 29 Apr 2010, 16:23
by pquispea_m5
I like it

Greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 29 Apr 2010, 18:35
by kiabowie
Me too :lol: . Have done very little on the dual, had to repair some things on my "little" F16. Been flying a coupple of times can't wait for the big one.

Greets,
Peter

Unread postPosted: 14 May 2010, 16:01
by kiabowie
Hi Pablo, lots of F16 s on this link: http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/f-16_home.htm

Greets,
Peter

Unread postPosted: 14 May 2010, 23:44
by pquispea_m5
kiabowie wrote:Hi Pablo, lots of F16 s on this link: http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/f-16_home.htm

Greets,
Peter


beautifull!!! just i needed. thanxs for share. working on tail and looking for geometry details of parachute box

greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 15 May 2010, 10:40
by kiabowie
take a look at this site from DACO, http://ultra.glo.be/daco/
Very important pictures from the drag housing.

Greets,
Peter

Unread postPosted: 23 May 2010, 22:32
by pquispea_m5
greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 05 Jun 2010, 16:54
by Habu
Ah, the parabrake tail is coming along nicely!

Unread postPosted: 06 Jun 2010, 03:00
by pquispea_m5
Habu wrote:Ah, the parabrake tail is coming along nicely!


...And what about stabilizators?

Greets,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 29 Jun 2010, 04:16
by yms16
kiabowie wrote:
pquispea_m5 wrote:practicing with aluminium and some details...

greets,
Pablo


Hi Pablo, looking good. Do you know a adres for those tiny screws? We need two different sizes I think. Have made no progress, other things to do.
Greets,
Peter


I also found this site for micro screws...Better price than the ones listed before.

M0.6-M5 Micro Screws
www.usmicroscrew.com

Unread postPosted: 05 Jul 2010, 19:39
by kiabowie
Super, thanx a lot.
Greets,
Peter

Unread postPosted: 05 Jul 2010, 20:21
by geraldrutten
Hi Pablo, your mould is comming allong very nicely, good to see your progress.

Rgds,
Gerald

Unread postPosted: 06 Jul 2010, 06:19
by pquispea_m5
geraldrutten wrote:Hi Pablo, your mould is comming allong very nicely, good to see your progress.

Rgds,
Gerald


Thanks Gerald, more pics on my blog: http://f16model.blogspot.com/
greets,
Pablo

RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 05 Nov 2010, 23:18
by kiabowie
Super pictures of the gear Pablo :notworthy:

http://f16model.blogspot.com/

Greets,
Peter

RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 10 Feb 2011, 07:56
by Habu
Anything new?

Re: RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 10 Feb 2011, 23:36
by pquispea_m5
Habu wrote:Anything new?

more pics very soon! working on intake lips.

Re: RE: Re: building a RC F16 scale 1:5

Unread postPosted: 13 Feb 2011, 19:10
by pquispea_m5
here it is, to mantain this thread alive ;)
grts,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 22 Jun 2011, 00:31
by pquispea_m5
Grts,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 25 Jun 2011, 09:04
by pquispea_m5
Grts,
Pablo

windshield

Unread postPosted: 01 Jul 2011, 17:52
by pquispea_m5
Hi,
Please someone of you know what is it? and how does it work?.
Grts,
Pablo

RE: windshield

Unread postPosted: 05 Aug 2011, 20:38
by Habu
Wow I've missed a lot! That piece you show, is I believe just a reinforcement plate for the front of the canopy.

Re: RE: windshield

Unread postPosted: 05 Aug 2011, 20:48
by pquispea_m5
Enjoying with sheeting. this gunport is much better than the last one.
Grts,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 09 Aug 2011, 22:45
by pquispea_m5
Grts,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 11 Aug 2011, 22:31
by pquispea_m5
One panel more...you can visit my blog for more pics http://f16model.blogspot.com
Grts,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 03 Oct 2011, 16:11
by pquispea_m5
Grts,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 11 Oct 2011, 16:30
by pquispea_m5
GPS antenna detail
Grts,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 19 Oct 2011, 18:16
by pquispea_m5
Nice drop
Grts,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 29 Oct 2011, 02:23
by pquispea_m5
Grts,
Pablo

plans

Unread postPosted: 19 Dec 2011, 23:46
by mikie
Great project Pablo. Very exacting and beautiful. What plans did you start with? I did one(not like your great accomplishment) plywood formers and foam fill. Have you completed it?

RE: plans

Unread postPosted: 20 Dec 2011, 02:38
by pquispea_m5
Thanks mikie,

i started with a drawing of jay miller book. Aerograph I. General Dynamics F16. You can find a copy in the web. this is one of them:
http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopi ... rt-15.html

I haven't completed yet and the building is in progress. Take a look at my blog for updates http://f16model.blogspot.com/

Grts,
Pablo

formers

Unread postPosted: 21 Dec 2011, 21:20
by mikie
Are these balsa or ply? Will the final plane be glass pulled from a mold of this plug?

RE: formers

Unread postPosted: 21 Dec 2011, 21:29
by pquispea_m5
1. The sections are plywood of 5mm and then I covered with balsa 3mm. After that, filler and then 2 layers of fiber glass 160g reinforced with epoxi. The alu sheeting is in progress for plug.
2. Yes it will.
Grts,
Pablo

RE: formers

Unread postPosted: 24 Mar 2012, 19:01
by Habu
Your nozzle animation was awesome!

Unread postPosted: 24 Mar 2012, 22:30
by pquispea_m5
thanks Habu, doing my best.
Grts,
Pablo

Unread postPosted: 05 Nov 2012, 19:31
by pquispea_m5
More progress!
Grts,
Pablo