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Unread post23 Sep 2020, 20:04

Scorpion1alpha wrote:"marauder2048", there are a couple of complaints by forum members of your behavior, particularly of you calling people "stupid" in this thread. You are hereby warned to cease that behavior as it does violate forum rules. Continuation of this behavior towards others could result in disciplinary actions against you to include banning.


I said that 'weasel1962' was "being stupid" after giving him absolutely every opportunity to backdown before I
produced irrefutable, GAO adjudicable, primary source documents that proved him completely wrong.

This has happened before with him; he was nasty, condescending and high-handed and clearly of the mind
that I was bluffing.

I wasn't; he's upset with that.

But I've never complained about his behavior.

If there are other members who were offended by my language then I apologize. It has never happened before
this incident and it will never happen again.
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Unread post24 Sep 2020, 01:31

marauder2048 wrote:
Scorpion1alpha wrote:"marauder2048", there are a couple of complaints by forum members of your behavior, particularly of you calling people "stupid" in this thread. You are hereby warned to cease that behavior as it does violate forum rules. Continuation of this behavior towards others could result in disciplinary actions against you to include banning.


I said that 'weasel1962' was "being stupid" after giving him absolutely every opportunity to backdown before I
produced irrefutable, GAO adjudicable, primary source documents that proved him completely wrong.

This has happened before with him; he was nasty, condescending and high-handed and clearly of the mind
that I was bluffing.

I wasn't; he's upset with that.

But I've never complained about his behavior.

If there are other members who were offended by my language then I apologize. It has never happened before
this incident and it will never happen again.


GAO like CBO Reports aren't worth the paper they're printed........(just saying)
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Unread post24 Sep 2020, 17:51

Of all the boards... we've got people here who's feelings are hurt over being called wrong, stupid or what have you? C'mon.. this board is above that. This PC nonsense has gone far enough - if someone is such a wilting flower they run to a mod b/c they're "offended" or their feelings are hurt - they don't belong here.

Go watch "The View" where you can blither on about your "feelings". These people need to go, they're weakening the very fabric of America...
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Unread post25 Sep 2020, 01:32

Don't recall making a complaint. Mixel, agreed with you pages back that its time to move on. Quite a number of interesting articles.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/milita ... jet-clues/
Some of the pics suggest its a single engined fighter so I'm keeping an open mind here.
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Unread post25 Sep 2020, 02:18

weasel1962 wrote:Don't recall making a complaint. Mixel, agreed with you pages back that its time to move on. Quite a number of interesting articles.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/milita ... jet-clues/
Some of the pics suggest its a single engined fighter so I'm keeping an open mind here.


"interesting articles" == tertiary source of noise?

As an act of contrition, I offer that we don't want to lower the tone around here
with anything from Mizokami or Cenciotti.
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Unread post25 Sep 2020, 02:31

Its not about the author. Its about the pics.
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Unread post25 Sep 2020, 02:50

weasel1962 wrote:Don't recall making a complaint.


And what is this...subpoenaed testimony before the Senate?!!

Either you did or you didn't.

Please state which.
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Unread post25 Sep 2020, 02:52

weasel1962 wrote:Its not about the author. Its about the pics.


The pics are public domain or US Govt. works. You could just attach them.
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Unread post25 Sep 2020, 02:54

Too many sources. Rather than posting all the various sources, the article highlights/credits all the various sources.
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Unread post25 Sep 2020, 03:08

Y.A.W.N..
Have F110, Block 70, will travel
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Unread post25 Sep 2020, 03:16

jetblast16 wrote:Y.A.W.N..


That would be in reference to your post of one of those pics yourself...
viewtopic.php?f=36&t=53264&p=444779#p444779
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Unread post25 Sep 2020, 03:33

weasel1962 wrote:
jetblast16 wrote:Y.A.W.N..


That would be in reference to your post of one of those pics yourself...
viewtopic.php?f=36&t=53264&p=444779#p444779



I'm not sure this or any of the above adds anything. The Cenciotti article cited in the article cited above
(isn't indirection fun) tries to connect these back to the "sightings" of what just about
everyone with a photo analysis background agrees is the B-2.
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Unread post25 Sep 2020, 03:34

I agree, its not conclusive. All I'm highlighting is that not all of those pics are twin-engined. Don't think a B-2 will be single-engined.
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Unread post25 Sep 2020, 08:30

weasel1962 wrote:I agree, its not conclusive. All I'm highlighting is that not all of those pics are twin-engined. Don't think a B-2 will be single-engined.


Fair enough. The recent Lockheed ICE based papers were modeling a single F135. It's not inconceivable the Air Force
would want to tackle tailless with a single engine first since handling asymmetric thrust due to single engine out
in a twin becomes really tricky in a tailless supersonic fighter.

I still like JMR-TD, which the Army is adamant the Budget documents is not a prototyping effort for FVL,
as a model for NGAD. But it's all guess work.
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Unread post25 Sep 2020, 13:15

weasel1962 wrote:Don't recall making a complaint. Mixel, agreed with you pages back that its time to move on. Quite a number of interesting articles.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/milita ... jet-clues/
Some of the pics suggest its a single engined fighter so I'm keeping an open mind here.


Didn't mean it was you making the complaint, sorry if it came off that way. And agree 100% we need to get back to the issue at hand here - USAF has built/flown a full scale, Next Gen Fighter...

If they do this one right, it will have an even bigger fear factor than the F-15/22... combined. And I don't just mean in theater or in a tactical sense. All signs point to an aircraft with a strategic capability, something that fundamentally changes the game. I can't wait to see it, and it shouldn't be long now. Eventually, they'll need to expand the flight envelope so at some point - we'll get our first peek. Personally, I can't wait... :)
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