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Unread post29 Jun 2019, 02:09

RAF has smallest combat force in history with fewest fighter jets after shrinking by nearly half in just 12 years
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... e-low.html

Claims 102 Typhoon and 17 F-35B available.

Per Airbus military deliveries as at May 2019, 158 of 160 Typhoons delivered comprising 53 Tranche 1, 67 Tranche 2 and 38 Tranche 3A. 50+ are generally in sustainment.
Out of 17 F-35B, 8 are Blk 2B and before, remaining are currently blk 3F.

Squadron list
1 (F) Sqn - Typhoon FGR4 - QRA squadron stood up 2012
II (AC) Sqn - Typhoon FGR4 - QRA squadron stood up 2016
3 (F) Sqn - Typhoon FGR4 - QRA squadron stood up 2006
6 Sqn - Typhoon FGR4 - QRA squadron stood up 2010
IX (B) Sqn - Typhoon FGR4 - stood up 2019
XI (F) Sqn - Typhoon FGR4 - stood up 2007
29 Sqn - Typhoon OCU - stood up 2003
41 Sqn - Typhoon OTE - stood up 2006
17 Sqn - F-35B OTE - converted 2013
617 Sqn - F-35B - converted 2018
207 Sqn - F-35B OCU - stood up 1 Jul 2019
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Unread post30 Jun 2019, 03:57

RAF should have 35 F-35B by 2022.
https://des.mod.uk/f-35-fleet-17-jet-order/
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Unread post01 Jul 2019, 03:51

6 RAF/RN F-35Bs have been deployed in combat. Originally deployed for training as part of Exercise Lightning Dawn, then alongside Typhoons as part of Operation Shader.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... al-sorties

Below is the range circle representing the combat radius of F-35B from RAF Akrotiri.
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Unread post01 Jul 2019, 15:55

Keep in mind that the F-35B's range profile is based on STOVL operations. When they operate from traditional airstrips, their range is significantly more.
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Unread post01 Jul 2019, 23:31

SpudmanWP wrote:Keep in mind that the F-35B's range profile is based on STOVL operations. When they operate from traditional airstrips, their range is significantly more.


Hmmm. Help me understand that.
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Unread post01 Jul 2019, 23:37

I honestly have a hard time picturing much savings for take off but landing at "idle" compared to landing at full power I can see getting some gains.
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Unread post02 Jul 2019, 00:23

sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:I honestly have a hard time picturing much savings for take off but landing at "idle" compared to landing at full power I can see getting some gains.


My bet is a couple hundred pounds...another 15-20 miles(ish). /2= 8-10 miles of radius.
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Unread post02 Jul 2019, 00:50

Making the range circle irrelevant...
https://www.raf.mod.uk/aircraft/voyager/

...and they only need 1, which was deployed, to support both F-35s and Typhoon.
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Unread post10 Jul 2019, 00:25

I clicked on this topic for a good laugh. Actually, it's very sad. They just sold off an "extra" C-130J to the Marines. I wonder if there will be a fire sale of F-35s at some point.

I believe they are down to one armored division. When you are down to only one armored division, what's the point? Why have any? Maybe it will pay for a few more hip surgeries for the NHS or maybe patients will only have to wait three months for an MRI instead of 6 months?
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Unread post10 Jul 2019, 02:56

Its worse when that sole armoured division won't have a full complement of tanks (only 148 to be upgraded under LEP?).
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... parts.html

and its not just the MBT fleet but the vehicle fleet in general as DN reports...
https://www.defensenews.com/global/euro ... ete-tanks/

On the transport front, the RAF has got 8 C-17s (s/no 171-178), 14 MRTT (6 KC3, 332-335, 337-338, 8 KC2 330-331, 339-343 and 336 configured for VIP with business class seats) and 20 out of 22 A400Ms (s/no 400-421). On C-130s, the RAF's plan is to keep the Hercules C4 (J-30, now 12 active, 1 stored, 2 w/o) and divest the C5s anyways (2 to Bahrain, 1 to Bangladesh, 1 to blue angels, 4 stored, 2 active).

RAF transport sqn
99 sqn - C-17
24 sqn - C130J C4/C5 - converting to A400 Atlas C1
47 sqn - C130J C4/C5
70 sqn - A400 Atlas C1
10 sqn - Voyager
101 sqn - Voyager
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Unread post20 Jul 2019, 16:27

A400M woes

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... keep-26bn/

"A recent Defence Select Committee was told that engineering staff at RAF Brize Norton called the aircraft “a dog” and that on occasion only two out of the fleet of 20 aircraft were serviceable."

"In Parliament this week Mark Francois, a former Defence Minister, said: “We have paid £2.6 billion for an aircraft with appalling reliability, bad engines, a virtually broken gearbox, problem propellers, massive vibration problems and an inability to deliver paratroops.”

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207 sqn returns to UK with 6 F-35B

https://theaviationist.com/2019/07/17/r ... -markings/
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Unread post21 Jul 2019, 03:13

RAF/RN inventory per flightglobal's World Air Forces 2019.
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