J-20 goes operational again

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Unread post06 Oct 2020, 08:38

weasel1962 wrote:
mixelflick wrote:Given all of the design changes and ongoing issues, it sounds like their teething problems aren't done yet...


If one looks at PLAAF fighter production, its improvement by batches. Example, the original J-10A replaced its intakes with DSI in J-10B, followed by AESA & localized engine in J-10C. They don't do retrofit. They upgraded the AL-31FN to the series 3 and at the same time developed their local engine.

Same modus operandi will apply to J-20. Later batches will incorporate changes in design, construction, engine & avionics upgrades.


Sooo.. some of the batches take 20-30:years? Got it.
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Unread post06 Oct 2020, 12:33

jessmo112 wrote:
weasel1962 wrote:
mixelflick wrote:Given all of the design changes and ongoing issues, it sounds like their teething problems aren't done yet...


If one looks at PLAAF fighter production, its improvement by batches. Example, the original J-10A replaced its intakes with DSI in J-10B, followed by AESA & localized engine in J-10C. They don't do retrofit. They upgraded the AL-31FN to the series 3 and at the same time developed their local engine.

Same modus operandi will apply to J-20. Later batches will incorporate changes in design, construction, engine & avionics upgrades.


Sooo.. some of the batches take 20-30:years? Got it.


Precisely where did I say "some of the batches take 20-30 years"?
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Unread post07 Oct 2020, 02:31

The current engine is a cold war era design.
And the newer engine is blowing up on ghe stands.
Even when they get it to work it will be a copy of a cold war era design. You cant rant about incremental upgrades all you like but its not going to change the facts.
If they are doing improvements in batches then this batch is a 20 year batch. At this the The U.S. will be installing 6 or 7th generation engines, before the Chinese can get a indigenous engine to super-cruise.
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