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Re: October 25, 1994 F-14A landing mishap

Unread postPosted: 19 Jul 2019, 14:42
by mixelflick
botsing wrote:
wooster wrote:
Furthermore I think that we should not overlook the amount of pressure on her to keep her stats up, it's not something good but it might help to better understand that era.



REALLY?

"Pressure" to keep her stats up? She was supposed to be a FIGHTER PILOT. They have standards for a reason, and they need to be able to deal with pressure - it goes with the job.

She screwed up, and it almost cost her RIO his life. If you read what I and others have posted... they cut her slack no man would be given. All because she was supposed to be a "historic first". It was to be a triumph of diversity over.... actually finding the best person for the job.

Thank God this diversity crap wasn't around when the Manhattan project was going on. We may well be speaking German right now..

Re: October 25, 1994 F-14A landing mishap

Unread postPosted: 21 Jul 2019, 00:05
by disconnectedradical
Before we start screaming about her special treatment, can we actually bring some evidence or are we just assuming that?

If we're going to throw her under the bus and say she's a crap pilot, then what does that say about the F-14 pilots with even lower landing scores than her, since her landing scores were actually middle of the pack?

mixelflick wrote:Don't believe that? Have a good read..

http://www.returnofkings.com/39218/the- ... he-us-navy


This article seems more like an editorial. And if we're going to attribute her mistake to a gender, again what does that say about all the other F-14 pilots that crashed due to mistake?

Re: October 25, 1994 F-14A landing mishap

Unread postPosted: 24 Jul 2019, 06:42
by Corsair1963
RIP: Another Iranian F-14A Tomcat Just Bit the Dust

The U.S. Navy retired the iconic Tomcat on Sep. 22, 2006 and today the F-14 remains in service with IRIAF.

The picture in this post features the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force (IRIAF) F-14A Tomcat that crashed yesterday .

According to Scramble Facebook News Magazine, it is now (still unconfirmed) reported that the aircraft involved is F-14A 3-6003. According to the picture of the fatal Tomcat, the airframe is completely destroyed.

As we have reported yesterday, one of the few remaining IRIAF F-14A Tomcat fighter jets was involved in a crash at home base Esfahãn-Shahid Beheshti International Airport (Iran).

The IRIAF F-14A from the 8th Tactical Air Base crashed while it was landing. The aircraft reported an emergency to air traffic control during its training flight, subsequently the fighter was approved to make a quick landing at Esfahãn, but the aircraft was not able to hold position and skidded of the runway. Both pilot and Radar Intercept Officer (RIO) were forced to eject. They parachuted safely to mother earth.

It is said that the IRIAF only have some twelve to fourteen operational F-14A and F-14AMs left. The IRIAF faces large problems to keep their Tomcats in the air (the AM version is locally modified and equipped with new avionics and multi-function displays in the cockpit, counter measure systems, radar warning receivers and an inertial navigation system).

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/ ... Y3IgcaLJeE

Re: October 25, 1994 F-14A landing mishap

Unread postPosted: 24 Jul 2019, 10:39
by mixelflick
disconnectedradical wrote:Before we start screaming about her special treatment, can we actually bring some evidence or are we just assuming that?

If we're going to throw her under the bus and say she's a crap pilot, then what does that say about the F-14 pilots with even lower landing scores than her, since her landing scores were actually middle of the pack?

mixelflick wrote:Don't believe that? Have a good read..

http://www.returnofkings.com/39218/the- ... he-us-navy


This article seems more like an editorial. And if we're going to attribute her mistake to a gender, again what does that say about all the other F-14 pilots that crashed due to mistake?


Give it up man, you are in total denial.

Nobody is fooled by you (or the Navy's) handling of this matter.

Re: October 25, 1994 F-14A landing mishap

Unread postPosted: 24 Jul 2019, 21:49
by disconnectedradical
mixelflick wrote:
disconnectedradical wrote:Before we start screaming about her special treatment, can we actually bring some evidence or are we just assuming that?

If we're going to throw her under the bus and say she's a crap pilot, then what does that say about the F-14 pilots with even lower landing scores than her, since her landing scores were actually middle of the pack?

mixelflick wrote:Don't believe that? Have a good read..

http://www.returnofkings.com/39218/the- ... he-us-navy


This article seems more like an editorial. And if we're going to attribute her mistake to a gender, again what does that say about all the other F-14 pilots that crashed due to mistake?


Give it up man, you are in total denial.

Nobody is fooled by you (or the Navy's) handling of this matter.


You literally did not address any of my points. If you call her a crap pilot, what does that say about pilots with lower landing scores than her, or other F-14 pilots that crashed because of pilot error? And before you yell cover up or whitewashing, give some actual evidence instead of editorial articles.

There's a lot that's wrong and should be fixed with women in the military. Especially in combat arms I strongly believe females should be held to same standard as males, but for non-physical positions it's less of an issue. Yet that's no excuse to sweep all women away from the military as you seem to want. Since you just keep denigrating women in armed forces and generalize all of them as unfit to serve, where did you serve then?

Re: October 25, 1994 F-14A landing mishap

Unread postPosted: 24 Jul 2019, 21:53
by quicksilver
“Since you just keep denigrating women in armed forces and generalize all of them as unfit to serve, where did you serve then?”

Touché

Re: October 25, 1994 F-14A landing mishap

Unread postPosted: 24 Jul 2019, 22:03
by Prinz_Eugn
disconnectedradical wrote:You literally did not address any of my points. If you call her a crap pilot, what does that say about pilots with lower landing scores than her, or other F-14 pilots that crashed because of pilot error? And before you yell cover up or whitewashing, give some actual evidence instead of editorial articles.

There's a lot that's wrong and should be fixed with women in the military. Especially in combat arms I strongly believe females should be held to same standard as males, but for non-physical positions it's less of an issue. Yet that's no excuse to sweep all women away from the military as you seem to want. Since you just keep denigrating women in armed forces and generalize all of them as unfit to serve, where did you serve then?


Mom's Basement 1998-present, presumably.