Spain joins France, Germany on new combat fighter

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Unread post26 Jun 2019, 00:50



Vago at it again; brief, but informative clip of the "new" NGF, part of the SCAF program
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Unread post29 Jun 2019, 01:19



Cool video showing the "system of systems" concept
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Unread post14 Feb 2020, 12:02

Dassault, Airbus and partners win Phase 1A contract for FCAS

https://www.airforce-technology.com/new ... e-1a-fcas/

A consortium of Dassault Aviation, Airbus and other partners has received an initial framework contract (Phase 1A) for the development of a next-generation combat jet.

The other partners include MTU Aero Engines, Safran, MBDA and Thales.

In 2017, France and Germany agreed to jointly work on the future air combat system.

The 18-month contract has been awarded by the governments of France and Germany for the launch of the demonstrator phase for the Future Combat Air System (FCAS).

Preliminary work under the deal includes the development of demonstrators and innovative, advanced technologies.

Test flights are expected to commence by 2026.
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Unread post14 Feb 2020, 15:29

marsavian wrote:Dassault, Airbus and partners win Phase 1A contract for FCAS

https://www.airforce-technology.com/new ... e-1a-fcas/

A consortium of Dassault Aviation, Airbus and other partners has received an initial framework contract (Phase 1A) for the development of a next-generation combat jet.

The other partners include MTU Aero Engines, Safran, MBDA and Thales.

In 2017, France and Germany agreed to jointly work on the future air combat system.

The 18-month contract has been awarded by the governments of France and Germany for the launch of the demonstrator phase for the Future Combat Air System (FCAS).

Preliminary work under the deal includes the development of demonstrators and innovative, advanced technologies.

Test flights are expected to commence by 2026.


Win? Agains whom? :D

As I understand from tge article, Dassault will be mostly responsible for the "fighter" while Airbus concentrates on the drones.

It will be interesting to watch their timeline. It took 6-7 years for ATF and JSF to go from X plane's first flight to that of a production version and about ten years more to achieve IOC. So if they get this thing into service before 2040 I say job well done.
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Unread post27 May 2020, 05:15

Three European air forces approve performance benchmarks for next-gen fighter jet


COLOGNE, Germany – The air forces of Germany, France and Spain have agreed on a set of performance benchmarks to help their governments guide the development of a next-generation fighter jet set to fly in 2040, the German Bundeswehr announced on Tuesday.


The document, approved earlier this month, is meant to help officials judge which features from a collection of currently 10 possible system architectures are worth keeping when the time comes to settle on path forward for the Next-Generation Weapon System.


That system, with the manned next-gen fighter at its heart, is slated to become the central element of the Future Combat Air System, the most ambitious and expensive weapons program in mainland Europe. As envisioned, each jet would be accompanied by a small fleet of attack and surveillance drones, or “remote carriers,” and all elements would be interlinked by an artificial intelligence-powered “combat cloud,” according to a project description.


The 10 different system architectures for NGWS currently in the mix lean lean in different directions when it comes to armaments, maneuverability and range of the main jet and its companion drones, for example, the Bundeswehr statement explains.


The three air force top officials – Lt. Gen. Ingo Gerhartz for Germany, Gen. Philippe Lavigne for France and Javier Fernandez for Spain – also agreed on a “Common Understanding Connectivity,” a guide for connecting national systems into the future FCAS scenario.

The document will enable the program partner nations to “synchronize” their respective development programs, according to the German statement.


The industry leads for the Future Combat Air System program, Airbus for Germany and Dassault for France, unveiled a mockup of the future fighter jet at the Paris Air Show last year. The plan is to begin testing a prototype in 2026.


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Earlier this year, France and Germany, formally kicked off the next phase of the overall program, with each government contributing with $85 million toward the development of technology demonstrators.


German lawmakers, who fear an overtly strong French industry influence in the FCAS program, have linked the project to progress on the Main Ground Combat System, another highly visible bilateral program aimed at building a common battle tank.


France has the lead on the next-generation fighter while Germany leads the tank project.


https://www.defensenews.com/global/euro ... ghter-jet/
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Unread post27 May 2020, 13:19

Eh, I still don't see it happening. At least a true partnership between France and.... anybody.

It is interesting to hear all of them waffle on the "balanced stealth" vs. full up VLO debate. I guess now that they feel capable, VLO will be a thing. But honestly... I just don't see the $ for this thing being there. 5th gen aircraft are SO expensive. The dem/val periods are so lengthy, so exhausting. By the time you work all the bugs out, how much $ will be left over for actual production?

I just can't see it, especially if France winds up going it alone..
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