F-22 Crash at Eglin

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Unread post16 May 2020, 15:09

Glad the pilot is ok. This reminds me a bit of that old song "99 bottles of beer on the wall". How long can the fleet sustain this slow trickle of losses?
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Unread post17 May 2020, 05:51

The crash was Obama's fault or the Democrats or the Chinese virus according to Trump.
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Unread post17 May 2020, 16:33

Trump Derangement Syndrome?

Cite your source.
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Unread post17 May 2020, 17:26

edpop wrote:The crash was Obama's fault or the Democrats or the Chinese virus according to Trump.

So now we're politicizing a freaking plane crash? Material not worthy of f-16.net.
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Unread post17 May 2020, 18:21

edpop wrote:The crash was Obama's fault or the Democrats or the Chinese virus according to Trump.


Most here don't have TDS or alternatively, come here to get away from those with TDS. The pilot is safe, that's all that matters. Yes, the fleet is small but they'll do whatever they need to do to keep them relevant. Nobody wants to see a Raptor lost, but if it has to happen... better it be a training bird vs. combat coded IMO.
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Unread post17 May 2020, 19:18

awsome wrote:Glad the pilot is ok. This reminds me a bit of that old song "99 bottles of beer on the wall". How long can the fleet sustain this slow trickle of losses?

Well at the current rate, it'll be the 2060s before losses affect combat squadron strength.
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Unread post18 May 2020, 16:26

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2 ... -are-left/

That’s 17 F-22s the Air Force can afford to lose in crashes or in combat before existing squadrons must start cutting their flyable strength.


on a side note

Meanwhile America’s other stealth fighter, the ground-attack-optimized F-35, proved to be a mediocre dogfighter. Design flaws also have limited the F-35’s ability to fly at supersonic speeds.
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Unread post18 May 2020, 16:43

Quoting Axe again eh?
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Unread post18 May 2020, 20:29

quicksilver wrote:Quoting Axe again eh?



When will they learn?
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Unread post18 May 2020, 20:33

zero-one wrote:https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2020/05/15/an-f-22-stealth-fighter-just-crashed-how-many-are-left/

That’s 17 F-22s the Air Force can afford to lose in crashes or in combat before existing squadrons must start cutting their flyable strength.


on a side note

Meanwhile America’s other stealth fighter, the ground-attack-optimized F-35, proved to be a mediocre dogfighter. Design flaws also have limited the F-35’s ability to fly at supersonic speeds.


Axe was one of the F-22s most outspoken critics at the time. I like to think he helped do a great job of ginning up a lot of the outrage that helped get it curtailed.
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Unread post18 May 2020, 23:54

David Axe as usual has no idea what he is talking about. Honestly, who would even pay this guy to write anything??? :doh:
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Unread post19 May 2020, 01:49

Corsair1963 wrote:David Axe as usual has no idea what he is talking about. Honestly, who would even pay this guy to write anything??? :doh:


Much like anti-gunners that push for large sweeping gun control measures, they dont know what they're talking about to make a reasonably informed position on the matter.
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Unread post19 May 2020, 10:51

That's the 5th F-22 destroyed (if they don't somehow patch it back together) in 20 years and the last destroyed was in FY 2013. At that rate by 2060, that loss rate still won't impact squadron strength.

This is a plane that survived a direct hit by a class 5 hurricane. Can't think of any other plane that has.

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