F-22 Crash at Eglin

Unread postPosted: 15 May 2020, 21:11
by amullis

Re: F-22 Crash at Eglin

Unread postPosted: 16 May 2020, 15:09
by awsome
Glad the pilot is ok. This reminds me a bit of that old song "99 bottles of beer on the wall". How long can the fleet sustain this slow trickle of losses?

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Unread postPosted: 17 May 2020, 05:51
by edpop
The crash was Obama's fault or the Democrats or the Chinese virus according to Trump.

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Unread postPosted: 17 May 2020, 16:33
by usafr
Trump Derangement Syndrome?

Cite your source.

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Unread postPosted: 17 May 2020, 17:26
by USMilFan
edpop wrote:The crash was Obama's fault or the Democrats or the Chinese virus according to Trump.

So now we're politicizing a freaking plane crash? Material not worthy of f-16.net.

Re: F-22 Crash at Eglin

Unread postPosted: 17 May 2020, 18:21
by mixelflick
edpop wrote:The crash was Obama's fault or the Democrats or the Chinese virus according to Trump.


Most here don't have TDS or alternatively, come here to get away from those with TDS. The pilot is safe, that's all that matters. Yes, the fleet is small but they'll do whatever they need to do to keep them relevant. Nobody wants to see a Raptor lost, but if it has to happen... better it be a training bird vs. combat coded IMO.

Re: F-22 Crash at Eglin

Unread postPosted: 17 May 2020, 19:18
by wrightwing
awsome wrote:Glad the pilot is ok. This reminds me a bit of that old song "99 bottles of beer on the wall". How long can the fleet sustain this slow trickle of losses?

Well at the current rate, it'll be the 2060s before losses affect combat squadron strength.

Re: F-22 Crash at Eglin

Unread postPosted: 18 May 2020, 16:26
by zero-one
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2 ... -are-left/

That’s 17 F-22s the Air Force can afford to lose in crashes or in combat before existing squadrons must start cutting their flyable strength.


on a side note

Meanwhile America’s other stealth fighter, the ground-attack-optimized F-35, proved to be a mediocre dogfighter. Design flaws also have limited the F-35’s ability to fly at supersonic speeds.

Re: F-22 Crash at Eglin

Unread postPosted: 18 May 2020, 16:43
by quicksilver
Quoting Axe again eh?

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Unread postPosted: 18 May 2020, 20:29
by XanderCrews
quicksilver wrote:Quoting Axe again eh?



When will they learn?

Re: F-22 Crash at Eglin

Unread postPosted: 18 May 2020, 20:33
by XanderCrews
zero-one wrote:https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2020/05/15/an-f-22-stealth-fighter-just-crashed-how-many-are-left/

That’s 17 F-22s the Air Force can afford to lose in crashes or in combat before existing squadrons must start cutting their flyable strength.


on a side note

Meanwhile America’s other stealth fighter, the ground-attack-optimized F-35, proved to be a mediocre dogfighter. Design flaws also have limited the F-35’s ability to fly at supersonic speeds.


Axe was one of the F-22s most outspoken critics at the time. I like to think he helped do a great job of ginning up a lot of the outrage that helped get it curtailed.

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Unread postPosted: 18 May 2020, 23:54
by Corsair1963
David Axe as usual has no idea what he is talking about. Honestly, who would even pay this guy to write anything??? :doh:

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Unread postPosted: 19 May 2020, 01:49
by charlielima223
Corsair1963 wrote:David Axe as usual has no idea what he is talking about. Honestly, who would even pay this guy to write anything??? :doh:


Much like anti-gunners that push for large sweeping gun control measures, they dont know what they're talking about to make a reasonably informed position on the matter.

Re: F-22 Crash at Eglin

Unread postPosted: 19 May 2020, 10:51
by weasel1962
That's the 5th F-22 destroyed (if they don't somehow patch it back together) in 20 years and the last destroyed was in FY 2013. At that rate by 2060, that loss rate still won't impact squadron strength.

This is a plane that survived a direct hit by a class 5 hurricane. Can't think of any other plane that has.