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Re: Su-35 allegedly locked on an F-22

Unread postPosted: 25 Sep 2018, 21:09
by SpudmanWP
falcon.16 wrote:OLS-35 have not thermail imaging, so it must be tv image. Am i wrong? and if it is tv frame image really it is very poor quality. It is very difficult to see it good.
Since the SU-35 "could" have mounted a FLIR pod, I gave them the benefit of the doubt on that point.

Re: Su-35 allegedly locked on an F-22

Unread postPosted: 26 Sep 2018, 00:43
by firebase99
quicksilver wrote:Alex Lockie must now be a Russian troll. This is National Enquirer ‘martians kidnapped me as a baby’ stuff.

They might have used something besides a fuzzy YF-22 planform image if they wanted a few more clicks... :crazypilot:


This ^^^. When I first saw it Im like thats a J31 but yea, the YF-22. The morons who do this...I just laugh.

Re: Su-35 allegedly locked on an F-22

Unread postPosted: 26 Sep 2018, 06:31
by element1loop
Yup, YF-22 wing. They degraded the nose area to make it look less obvious.

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Re: Su-35 allegedly locked on an F-22

Unread postPosted: 27 Sep 2018, 11:21
by niafron
SpudmanWP wrote:
falcon.16 wrote:OLS-35 have not thermail imaging, so it must be tv image. Am i wrong? and if it is tv frame image really it is very poor quality. It is very difficult to see it good.
Since the SU-35 "could" have mounted a FLIR pod, I gave them the benefit of the doubt on that point.


https://defenseissues.files.wordpress.c ... qrkpwi.jpg

Accordind to this, it got both TV and IR.

Anyway, the claim is of no interest, obviously a SU 35 may lock a F 22 at some range, the problem is to know what happened prior to that.

Re: Su-35 allegedly locked on an F-22

Unread postPosted: 27 Sep 2018, 12:30
by sferrin
niafron wrote:
SpudmanWP wrote:
falcon.16 wrote:OLS-35 have not thermail imaging, so it must be tv image. Am i wrong? and if it is tv frame image really it is very poor quality. It is very difficult to see it good.
Since the SU-35 "could" have mounted a FLIR pod, I gave them the benefit of the doubt on that point.


https://defenseissues.files.wordpress.c ... qrkpwi.jpg

Accordind to this, it got both TV and IR.

Anyway, the claim is of no interest, obviously a SU 35 may lock a F 22 at some range, the problem is to know what happened prior to that.


Kinda like the Rapier crew who "detected" a B-2 on their IRST. . .at an airshow. :roll:

Re: Su-35 allegedly locked on an F-22

Unread postPosted: 29 Sep 2018, 13:14
by eloise
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Re: Su-35 allegedly locked on an F-22

Unread postPosted: 29 Sep 2018, 21:04
by XanderCrews
Thats a YF-22

Su-35 clearly capable of time travel

Re: Su-35 allegedly locked on an F-22

Unread postPosted: 29 Sep 2018, 21:42
by sinusoiddelta
And what is this conviently placed high contrast rectangle?

Re: Su-35 allegedly locked on an F-22

Unread postPosted: 29 Sep 2018, 21:55
by marsavian
Someone is laughably poor in Photoshop ;).

Re: Su-35 allegedly locked on an F-22

Unread postPosted: 30 Sep 2018, 03:02
by element1loop
sinusoiddelta wrote:And what is this conveniently placed high contrast rectangle?


Someone's desktop wallpaper went rogue?

Re: Su-35 allegedly locked on an F-22

Unread postPosted: 25 Oct 2018, 18:22
by charlielima223
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/ ... blem-34267

I always knew dave majumdar was a hack piece writer...

Re: Su-35 allegedly locked on an F-22

Unread postPosted: 25 Oct 2018, 19:23
by marsavian
Inaccurate too

Meanwhile, during Red Flag Alaska in 2012, German Luftwaffe pilots flying the Eurofighter Typhoon noted that they could acquire a track on the Raptor at ranges of about 20 nautical miles using their EuroFIRST PIRATE infrared search and track.


German/Austrian Typhoons don't have Pirate IRST

.... In 1991, Germany decided not to participate in the development due to cost issues but reserved the right to use the system.

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Re: Su-35 allegedly locked on an F-22

Unread postPosted: 26 Oct 2018, 18:00
by niafron
Sorry, but...:


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To be fully honnest, in most of the pictures i found, it wasn't PIRATE on the German Typhoon. Why? No idea. But there's some of these devices in the Luftwaffe.

The picture of the plane with 3 F 22 figures as signs of victories and without the PIRATE prove nothing for the device could be dismounted ( well, i guess so, anyway it's possible for the OSF on the Rafale).

Sure, it don't prove either the Typhoon engaged in the Red Flag 2012 exercise had PIRATE mounted.

If someone got more data on that, he's welcome.

Re: Su-35 allegedly locked on an F-22

Unread postPosted: 26 Oct 2018, 20:10
by marsavian
Those are test aircraft, combat units don't have a Eurofighter Typhoon logo on the tail and the 98th Wing is not an operational unit ;). As for your dismounted theory on the actual German plane that took part in that Red Flag ... wild, far-fetched. In 2013 the Luftwaffe received the 400th Typhoon built ... still without Pirate.

https://www.airforce-technology.com/new ... e-4142253/

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Their first Tranche 2 in 2009 ... Pirate less

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Re: Su-35 allegedly locked on an F-22

Unread postPosted: 27 Oct 2018, 16:06
by hythelday
T-38s "kill" Raptors without any IRSTs. F-22 silhouettes on Luftwaffe Typhoons are like risen F150 trucks with beam lights - owner thinks he's the man, while the rest of commuters think owner is an idiot with a small weiner.