F-22 and F-35 to S. Korea

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Unread post24 Nov 2017, 11:00

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/20 ... 00315.html

U.S. to deploy Raptor stealth fighters to Korea next month
2017/11/23

SEOUL, Nov. 23 (Yonhap) --
The United States is planning to send six F-22 Raptor stealth fighter jets to a joint air force exercise in South Korea next month in what is believed to be U.S. action to put maximum pressure on North Korea, military officials here said on Thursday. "Six F-22 fighters from the U.S. Air Force are scheduled to join the joint South Korea-U.S. air force exercise Vigilant Ace from Dec. 4-8," the officials said. The fighters will fly to the Korean Peninsula from Kadena Air Base in Okinawa, Japan and stay at an air base in South Korea throughout the exercise, according to officials. Up to four F-35A Lightning stealth fighters are also likely to join the deployment, they said. The U.S. fleet will reportedly engage in enemy infiltration and precision strike drills with South Korean Air Force fighter jets during the exercise. It would mark the first time the U.S. has deployed six Raptors to Korea at once and is sure to put pressure on North Korea with the overwhelming military force by the allies. The Raptor, an air superiority fighter, is capable of flying to key enemy facilities and launching precision attacks under the radar. Its maximum speed is about Mach 2.5.

The planned deployment comes as the U.S. steps up the deployment of strategic assets to South Korea in a show of force aimed at pressuring North Korea to the maximum level. Early this month, three U.S. nuclear-powered aircraft carriers were deployed to the East Sea after powerful American fighter jets flew near North Korea in the previous months. South Korea and the U.S. are escalating pressure, both economic and military, on North Korea in efforts to bring the country back to the table to negotiate its illegal development of nuclear weapons. The move is also sure to lead to an angry reaction from North Korea and threats to retaliate as similar operations have done in the past.
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Unread post24 Nov 2017, 13:57

The Raptor, an air superiority fighter, is capable of flying to key enemy facilities and launching precision attacks under the radar. Its maximum speed is about Mach 2.5.

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Unread post03 Dec 2017, 11:43

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/03/asia/nort ... index.html

US stealth jets arrive in South Korea as North Korean rhetoric heats up

By Brad Lendon and Taehoon Lee
Sun December 3, 2017

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Air combat exercise to begin

Meanwhile, South Korean media showed six US Air Force F-22 Raptors, Washington's top-of-the-line stealth fighters, arriving in South Korea on Saturday to participate in the Vigilant Ace 18 air combat exercise, an annual US-South Korea drill the US Air Force says is designed to boost the "combat effectiveness" of the alliance. Some 230 aircraft and 12,000 personnel from the US and South Korea are participating in the weeklong exercise, according to a US Air Force statement. A South Korean defense official confirmed to CNN on Sunday that the US is sending dozens of high-end fighters, bombers and support aircraft to the drills. "The US aircraft that have landed on South Korea include six F-22s, six F-35s, six EA-18Gs," the official said. "More than 10 F-15Cs and F-16s have also been deployed for the drill." These aircraft will stay in South Korea for the week. They will be joined by more F-35Bs -- the Marine Corps version, based in Japan -- B-1 bombers and E-3 airborne warning and control system (AWACS) aircraft that will fly in to join the war games and then return to bases elsewhere, the official said. ...
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Unread post04 Dec 2017, 15:22

Realistically, how much of a chance do F-35's stand to play in any military action vs the DPRK? I'd imagine IF it works as advertised it'd be THE platform chasing down SCUDS/road mobile ICBM's.

But honestly, do you think they'd risk it?
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Unread post04 Dec 2017, 16:43

mixelflick wrote:Realistically, how much of a chance do F-35's stand to play in any military action vs the DPRK? I'd imagine IF it works as advertised it'd be THE platform chasing down SCUDS/road mobile ICBM's.

But honestly, do you think they'd risk it?



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Unread post04 Dec 2017, 18:12

mixelflick wrote:Realistically, how much of a chance do F-35's stand to play in any military action vs the DPRK? I'd imagine IF it works as advertised it'd be THE platform chasing down SCUDS/road mobile ICBM's.

But honestly, do you think they'd risk it?


....Yes, if it progresses that far by a stupid act of NK initiating launching against the US or allies.
- Their AF is weak and targeted on the ground at best
- Their SAM/ air defense is targeted on the ground
- Their command structure is equally as weak and also targeted on the ground (no where to run, no where to hide)
- Their sponsors have acknowledged that if the NK initiate first attack, then the sponsors are not supporting the NK defense

...that all said, if the SCUDs are running around hiding out, then yes the F-35B located 300 miles away at MCAS Iwakuni could seek and destroy the said SCUDs, provided the SK AF has not destroyed them with the SK F-15/16 squadrons. Payback is hell and I'm not sure the US command structure will be able to stop SK from the total destruction of "All" NK military installations in that country. This will be the re-unification of that country and NK will not have a command structure to......
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Unread post08 Dec 2017, 15:31

I dunno. If a shooting war breaks out, it seems F-15's/16's will handily dispatch of DPRK's Mig-15's, 21's etc.. Why risk your most valuable asset the F-22 (and its pilots)?

OTOH, the F-35 seem custom made for the situation...
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Unread post09 Dec 2017, 03:12

You wouldn't be assuming much risk for the 5th gens, and the overall risk would be lower for the guys and gals in the 4th gens.
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Unread post09 Dec 2017, 03:29

mixelflick wrote:I dunno. If a shooting war breaks out, it seems F-15's/16's will handily dispatch of DPRK's Mig-15's, 21's etc.. Why risk your most valuable asset the F-22 (and its pilots)?

OTOH, the F-35 seem custom made for the situation...


Why are F22s in Syria?

The Chinese and the Russians are also around. You need the hardware to deal with contingencies.

Why has Kim been able to make such rapid progress? Is it out of the realm of possibility that one of the above has been helping him? If that's the case, could he also have better air defense than expected?

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