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Unread post14 Dec 2016, 12:44

Great opportunity to play with Oz F-35s down the road.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... tb2uh.html

US to fly F-22 Raptors in and out of Australia amid South China Sea tensions

The US will begin flying its deadliest fighter plane, the F-22 Raptor, out of northern Australia next year, the most senior American commander in the Pacific has revealed as he warned of a need to show strength to deter aggression in the region...

Euan Graham, the Lowy Institute's director of international security, described the presence of the F-22s as "pretty high-end coercive signalling to China".

While the rotation of marines in Darwin got more attention, the stationing of planes was much more strategically significant, he said...

Admiral Harris said that the US and Australia were "exploring greater integration of fifth-generation fighter deployments to Australia". Both Raptors and the controversial F-35 Joint Strike Fighter are so-called fifth generation planes combining stealth with powerful sensors and weaponry, though the F-22 is regarded as a better plane.
"When a fifth-generation fighter meets a fourth-generation fighter—the [latter] dies,”
CSAF Gen. Mark Welsh
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Unread post14 Dec 2016, 12:53

and more.

http://www.news.com.au/national/breakin ... 0ee56f67da

US Raptors set to exercise down under

RAAF combat aircraft are set to operate with US F-22 Raptor aircraft in joint exercises over Australian territory next year.
In the latest move in the US-Australia defence relationship, Admiral Harry Harris, commander of the US Pacific Command, said he and Australian defence head Air Chief Marshal Mark Binskin have signed an agreement on "force posture initiative" for coming years.
He told the Lowy Institute in Sydney the intent was to expand and increase opportunities for joint and combined training for forces located in Australia.
That includes the ongoing US Marine Corps training in the Top End plus enhanced air co-operation.
"We are exploring greater integration of fifth generation fighter deployments to Australia and plan to see significant activities in 2017," he said.
The RAAF is acquiring advanced fifth generation aircraft, the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning, but they won't be in service until next decade. F-35s are now entering service with the US Air Force and Marine Corps.
Admiral Harris said the F-22 was the US' current fifth generation fighter which was in service in good numbers.
"So we are going to bring down some F-22s to work with Australia to demonstrate the airplane and some of the unique maintenance and other aspects of fifth generation airframes," he said.
Fifth generation aircraft are the world's most advanced fighters and bombers, nearly invisible to radar, featuring advanced radars and the capability to network to other aircraft, ships and ground stations.

Raptor is generally regarded as the world's most advanced operational combat aircraft.
RAAF pilots have exercised with USAF Raptors in the US, while a few Raptors have visited Australia for airshows.
"When a fifth-generation fighter meets a fourth-generation fighter—the [latter] dies,”
CSAF Gen. Mark Welsh
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Unread post14 Dec 2016, 14:45

popcorn wrote:Admiral Harris said the F-22 was the US' current fifth generation fighter which was in service in good numbers.


Ha, that is about the only time I've ever seen adequate numbers and the F-22 Raptor mentioned in the same sentence.
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Unread post14 Dec 2016, 16:12

popcorn wrote:US to fly F-22 Raptors in and out of Australia


The locals will be like:
"Raptor? That's an odd name. I'd have called them 'chazzwazzers'."
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Unread post18 Dec 2016, 02:17

With the current Philippine idiot president reneging on the status of forces agreement with the US, Australia is the next best place for aviation assets as far as the South China Sea is concerned. Granted it is a good 1,500 miles from norther Australia to the SCS, so tactical assets will need logistical support (ie. tankers/ISR), but distance works both ways. The Chinese would be hard pressed to deploy any SURVIVABLE air or sea assets to deny us those bases in times of tension or hostilities. As of right now ballistic missiles are really the only way they can effectively attack Australia, and that's not a good first option unless you want to risk a nuclear exchange.

It's a shame Singapore is not getting F35s sooner to compliment us in that area, but Raptors and Rhinos and Lightnings (can we get a nickname for this turd designation) should be more than capable of dealing with any Chinese aircraft and or possible air defense zone. It's also reassuring that just a handful of B-1s or B-52s can basically destroy all of the island military outposts in that body of water in one strike. Which means back the Hainan and the Paracel islands for the Chinese.
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