F-22A with CVN-69 (Ike)

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Unread post02 Nov 2016, 08:11

http://alert5.com/2016/11/02/u-s-air-fo ... more-58565

U.S. Air Force, Navy in joint exercise to protect Ike CSG from aerial threats

Two F-22s and two tankers from the U.S. Air Force join 13 warplanes from the Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group (Ike CSG) on Oct. 25 for a joint air defense exercise (ADEX) in the Arabian Gulf.

The objective of the exercise was to improve integration of Navy and Air Force defense efforts while protecting aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) (Ike) from simulated aerial

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Unread post02 Nov 2016, 13:51

Interesting this appears on the heels of the J-20's public debut :)
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Unread post02 Nov 2016, 14:14

Raptor was platying wih Navy going back more than a decade. Nothing really new.
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Unread post02 Nov 2016, 14:43

popcorn wrote:Raptor was platying wih Navy going back more than a decade. Nothing really new.


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Unread post02 Nov 2016, 18:27

popcorn wrote:Raptor was platying wih Navy going back more than a decade. Nothing really new.


Please, what date and/ or where?

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Unread post02 Nov 2016, 20:19

Here's one:

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Northern edge, uss stennis 2009
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Unread post02 Nov 2016, 22:59

neptune wrote:
popcorn wrote:Raptor was platying wih Navy going back more than a decade. Nothing really new.


Please, what date and/ or where?

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Sorry, it was so long ago around the IOC time frame, a brief mention in the media.
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Unread post03 Nov 2016, 17:32

Honestly, how much fleet air defense did we lose when we retired the F-14?

I'm talking strictly aircraft here, not advancements in radar/missiles etc.
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Unread post03 Nov 2016, 20:11

mixelflick wrote:Honestly, how much fleet air defense did we lose when we retired the F-14?

I'm talking strictly aircraft here, not advancements in radar/missiles etc.

Native to the CV? Nearly all of it. A Block I Super Hornet was garbage compared to a Tomcat in air-to-air. A comparable Tomcat (AESA and AMRAAM equipped) would be a dominant 4th gen platform. As is the Block II SHornet is nearly as capable as the Tomcat when it retired for anti air work, and none of them hold a candle to the Raptor.

Edit for clarity: The Shornet now has better radar and missiles that make up for the lack of straight line performance available in the Tomcat. And since the Phoenix was retired before the Tomcat, the SHornet is actually MORE capable by a long shot than a retirement era Tomcat.
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Unread post04 Nov 2016, 15:21

It is quite ironic how things ended up, the F-14 dropping bombs and the SH providing fleet air defense LOL
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Unread post04 Nov 2016, 16:00

mixelflick wrote:Honestly, how much fleet air defense did we lose when we retired the F-14?

I'm talking strictly aircraft here, not advancements in radar/missiles etc.



Honestly very little. The F-14 was basically a sexy A-6 its last 10 years in service. In kosovo the F-14s hauled the bombs and Hornets escorted. Which makes since when you consider who could carry more.

This is before we get into the fact that "fleet defense" as a mission basically went away with the soviets.
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Unread post04 Nov 2016, 19:13

mixelflick wrote:It is quite ironic how things ended up, the F-14 dropping bombs and the SH providing fleet air defense LOL


The F-14D could have been the USN's Strike Eagle but with a better low altitude ride.
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Unread post04 Nov 2016, 21:37

sferrin wrote:
mixelflick wrote:It is quite ironic how things ended up, the F-14 dropping bombs and the SH providing fleet air defense LOL


The F-14D could have been the USN's Strike Eagle but with a better low altitude ride.

It was exactly that for a few years before it was retired.
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