Restarting F-22 production

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Unread post19 Apr 2016, 22:59

Law makers want the air force to study restarting the F-22 assembly line...

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016 ... ction.html
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Unread post20 Apr 2016, 00:32

I'm sure the air force would love more Raptors, but they are looking to create a 6th gen fighter that would eat the raptor for lunch in 20 years....not enough money to go around
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Unread post20 Apr 2016, 01:44

Talk is cheap.
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Unread post20 Apr 2016, 07:42

Very doubtful as the budget is just not there!
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Unread post20 Apr 2016, 12:20

Yeah, not going to happen. This is electioneering.
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Unread post20 Apr 2016, 18:50

Even suggesting it seems like it would hurt the F-35 politically.
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Unread post20 Apr 2016, 19:00

playloud wrote:Even suggesting it seems like it would hurt the F-35 politically.


Apples and oranges. (Of course the basement dweller crowd is all a twitter. I hope Copp thinks that means Australia still has a chance to get F-22s. :lmao: )
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Unread post20 Apr 2016, 20:20

sferrin wrote:
playloud wrote:Even suggesting it seems like it would hurt the F-35 politically.


Apples and oranges. (Of course the basement dweller crowd is all a twitter. I hope Copp thinks that means Australia still has a chance to get F-22s. :lmao: )

Best Fighter for Canada has been mentioning it. It's funny though, as they claimed the F-35 range was too low, and the cost was too high... but some of them want Raptors. :doh:
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Unread post20 Apr 2016, 20:47

:doh: :bang:
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Unread post20 Apr 2016, 21:06

sferrin wrote:
playloud wrote:Even suggesting it seems like it would hurt the F-35 politically.


Apples and oranges. (Of course the basement dweller crowd is all a twitter. I hope Copp thinks that means Australia still has a chance to get F-22s. :lmao: )

I didn't know Australia had a budget surplus to afford $250m jet fighters. The F-22 at the time was the worlds most expensive jet fighter in production. The "basement dweller" crowd conveniently forget that the reason for the F-22s increase in operational capability and availability is because of upgrades based on the F-35 and F/A-18E/F programs.

The F-22 Common Integrated Processor (CIP) upgrade in Block 30+ aircraft, is closer to the F-35 ICP (using PowerPC processors etc.), and parts of the mission software was backported from the F-35. The F-22 production line could not have been maintained while the F-35 mission avionics is developed.

The newer RAM coatings on the F-22 that significantly reduced the maintenance required were developed for the Super Hornet.

The improvements in production line technology, sensors and mission systems, pretty much dictates the F-22 would have to be redesigned into a 5.5th gen derivative, just for affordability.
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Unread post20 Apr 2016, 21:36

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -f-424404/

as much as I would like to see more Raptors... I am not holding my breath nor am I taking it serious.
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Unread post20 Apr 2016, 23:53

playloud wrote:
sferrin wrote:
playloud wrote:Even suggesting it seems like it would hurt the F-35 politically.


Apples and oranges. (Of course the basement dweller crowd is all a twitter. I hope Copp thinks that means Australia still has a chance to get F-22s. :lmao: )

Best Fighter for Canada has been mentioning it. It's funny though, as they claimed the F-35 range was too low, and the cost was too high... but some of them want Raptors. :doh:

Most of them are enamoured with air to air and forget Canada needs something that can effectively drop bombs. In fact being enamoured with air to air seems to be common, unless its the A-10.
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Unread post21 Apr 2016, 02:34

Its a conspiracy of bad actors trying to sink the F-35. They did enough damage with extra Super Hornet and Growler purchases, money better spent across the board on force maintenance. Now they want to weigh LM's management down with a golden carrot...
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Unread post21 Apr 2016, 03:28

madrat wrote:Its a conspiracy of bad actors trying to sink the F-35. They did enough damage with extra Super Hornet and Growler purchases, money better spent across the board on force maintenance. Now they want to weigh LM's management down with a golden carrot...

It's more likely to kill the 6th gen fighter than the F-35.
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Unread post21 Apr 2016, 03:33

I hope the right people steer this non-sense into funding for the 6th gen fighter.
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