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Incident at Hickham 14th Jan - Gear Collapse

Unread postPosted: 18 Jan 2015, 08:24
by boff180
Hi guys,

On 14th January an F-22A from Elmendorf AB landed at Hickham AB as part of a routine deployment.

On landing the brakes on the port main gear overheated and caught fire causing the undercarriage to collapse. The aircraft came to rest on the port intake/weapons bay.

Details are sketchy as are photos. The serial is visible in one shot but the image is too small to make it out.

Andy

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Unread postPosted: 18 Jan 2015, 10:30
by fang

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Unread postPosted: 18 Jan 2015, 14:34
by aw2007

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Unread postPosted: 19 Jan 2015, 04:58
by arl8733
I can recall a problem early in the program where one MLG brake locked up at Dobbins but no fire. Believe the hydraulic system was the culprit on that one if I remember correctly.

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Unread postPosted: 19 Jan 2015, 15:22
by aw2007
So any info as to which serial was involved ? Is the airframe likely a write-off or can it be saved ?

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Unread postPosted: 19 Jan 2015, 19:49
by neptune
aw2007 wrote:So any info as to which serial was involved ? Is the airframe likely a write-off or can it be saved ?


...they don't make these any more, it will be repaired.... :)

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Unread postPosted: 23 Jan 2015, 00:08
by aw2007
neptune wrote:
aw2007 wrote:So any info as to which serial was involved ? Is the airframe likely a write-off or can it be saved ?


...they don't make these any more, it will be repaired.... :)


Really hope they can save this. We need every one of those 150 frontline jets. Anyone knows which serial was involved. Looks like the Raptor came for Sentry Aloha :

http://dod.hawaii.gov/blog/news-release ... next-week/

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Unread postPosted: 23 Jan 2015, 03:24
by sferrin
Good thing we bought a lot of them and kept the line open for replacements and spares. :doh: :bang:

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Unread postPosted: 24 Jan 2015, 17:11
by huggy
At $330,000,000 each, what's the big deal?

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Unread postPosted: 25 Jan 2015, 03:02
by thomonkey
huggy wrote:At $330,000,000 each, what's the big deal?


planes cost alot when you only make a few of them.

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Unread postPosted: 04 Feb 2015, 01:29
by mongo
I am seriously getting tired of people throwing in R&D costs into the total cost of the Raptor. :bang: Let's do that for all the other aircraft and see how much they add up to and factor in annuity of the dollar. I bet you they will exceed the Raptor, i.e. F-16 variants and F-15 upgrades.

Until then, the realistic cost is around $150million per a bird. Remember it. :roll:

Judging by the picture, that Raptor is repairable.

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Unread postPosted: 04 Feb 2015, 15:05
by sprstdlyscottsmn
Raptor WAS $150 million. you do have to adjust for the inflation.

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Unread postPosted: 05 Feb 2015, 09:05
by geforcerfx
sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:Raptor WAS $150 million. you do have to adjust for the inflation.


165 million in 2014 dollars

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Unread postPosted: 05 Feb 2015, 15:19
by vilters
R&D costs have to be included.
Who does R&D for free?
Everybody has to live, and be payed for.
No company works for free.

In the end?
Call it whatever you want or like; But it is on the bill.
And the dollars have to come from somewhere.

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Unread postPosted: 08 Feb 2015, 19:20
by em745
vilters wrote:R&D costs have to be included.

:roll:

Let me as you this: If the production line were still open and the AF were to buy a new airframe tomorrow, how much would they pay, ~$165M or $330M+?

Case closed.

mongo wrote:I am seriously getting tired of people throwing in R&D costs into the total cost of the Raptor. :bang:

No kidding!