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Unread post06 Jul 2014, 14:00

On this guy's figures. My first impression is 'load of rubbish'.

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthre ... ost2150284
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Unread post06 Jul 2014, 15:51

uclass wrote:On this guy's figures. My first impression is 'load of rubbish'.

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthre ... ost2150284


I concur, he doesn't say anything about details on the performance such as payload, altitude, etc.

He's doing his own calculations which from what I can tell, are overly simplistic.
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Unread post07 Jul 2014, 03:48

Here is the summary:
Andraxxus wrote:Su-27S instantenious turn rate = 33,45 deg/s
Su-27S sustained turn rate = 25,91 deg/s
Su-27S climb rate= 357 m/s


MiG-29A instantenious turn rate = 28,57deg/s
MiG-29A sustained turn rate = 22,94 deg/s
MiG-29A climb rate = 368 m/s


F-16 Block 30 instantenious turn rate = 26,2 deg/s
F-16 Block 30 sustained turn rate = 23 deg/s
F-16 Block 30 climb rate rate = 343 m/s


F-15C instantenious turn rate = 27,46deg/s
F-15C sustained turn rate = 24,3 deg/s
F-15C climb rate = 376m/s@Vmax,


Rafale instantenious turn rate 30,26 deg/s
Rafale sustained turn rate 24,2 deg/s
Rafale climb rate 370 m/s


Typhoon instantenious turn rate 27,82
Typhoon sustained turn rate 22,41deg/s
Typhoon climb rate 359 m/s


F-35 instantenious turn rate 27,2 deg/s
F-35 sustained turn rate 21,5 deg/s
F-35 climb rate 286m/s


F-22 instantenious turn rate 31,12deg/s
F-22 sustained turn rate 23,58deg/s

Grippen instantenious turn rate 32,3 deg/s
Grippen sustained turn rate 21,57 deg/s


I'm happy with what i'm seeing with the F-35 although I'm surprised at his assesment o the F-22

He did say that his accuracy on 5th gen fighter estimates is 1/10 though
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Unread post07 Jul 2014, 20:24

What does you think of his actual methodology next to the figures?

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthre ... ost2150284
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Unread post07 Jul 2014, 20:59

uclass wrote:What does you think of his actual methodology next to the figures?

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthre ... ost2150284



first order approximations only, rather poor.
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