Slovakia's interested for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 20 Oct 2017, 09:17
by alippay2
Hello,

Slovak daily newspaper reports that Ministry of Defense is interested in F-16V. About 14 units should be purchased for value of at least EUR 2.0 Billion. The deal should be structured similarly to that of Bahrain.

Slovakia is considering few options, including sharing air force with the Czech Republic, purchasing JAS-39 (preferred option by our Prime Minister). We have a fleet of Mig-29AS, but they are serving above and beyond their planned service life. +

I sincerely do hope that we get F-16....I be happy for -CJs (Block 50). But I have also heard rumors that only AA weapons will be used (main purpose = air policing). That, frankly, is so disappointing. What's the point of getting Multi Purpose Fighter, when only 50% is being utilized? :bang: :bang:

Either way, it would be nice to become part of F-16 family. :)

Cheers,
Andrej

https://dennikn.sk/914663/dankovi-uradnici-rokuju-o-spickovej-verzii-stihacky-f-16-ktoru-zatial-kupil-len-bahrajn/?ref=tit

http://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files/mas/bahrain_16-60.pdf

Re: Slovakia's intersted for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2018, 20:39
by basher54321
http://www.dsca.mil

WASHINGTON, April 4, 2018 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Slovakia of F-16 Block 70/72 V configuration aircraft for an estimated cost of $2.91 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on April 3, 2018.

Re: Slovakia's intersted for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2018, 22:07
by marsavian
http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales
http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/sl ... n-aircraft
http://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files ... 8-10_0.pdf

WASHINGTON, Apr. 4, 2018 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Slovakia of F-16 Block 70/72 V configuration aircraft for an estimated cost of $2.91 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on April 3, 2018.

The Slovak Republic has requested a possible sale of fourteen (14) F-16 Block 70/72 V configuration aircraft; up to sixteen (16) F-16 F110 General Electric or F100 Pratt & Whitney engines (MDE); fifteen (15) M61 A1 Vulcan 20mm Guns (MDE); sixteen (16) APG-83 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radars (MDE); fourteen (14) Modular Mission Computers (MDE); fourteen (14) LINK-16 (MIDS-JTRS) secure communication systems (MDE); sixteen (16) LN260 EGI Embedded Global Positioning System Inertial Navigation Systems (EGI) (MDE); fourteen (14) Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (MDE); fourteen (14) Improved Programmable Display Generators (iPDGs) (MDE); thirty (30) AIM-120C7 air-to-air missiles, one hundred (100) AIM-9X air-to­ air missiles; twelve (12) AIM-9X Captive Air Training Missiles, two (2) AIM-120C7, twenty-four (24) AIM-9X additional guidance units; two hundred twenty-four (224) each Computer Control Groups and Airfoil Groups for GBU-12 Paveway II 5001b Guided Bomb Kits; twenty (20) Enhanced Computer Control Groups for Enhanced Paveway II (GBU-49); one hundred fifty (150) KMU-572F/B Guidance Kits for Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) 5001b Guided Bomb (GBU-38); sixty (60) LAU-129 Guided – Missile Launchers; thirty-six (36) MK-82 or BLU-111 500 lb Inert Fill Bomb; four hundred (400) MK-82 or BLU-111 500 lb Bomb Bodies; four hundred (400) FMU-152 Joint Programmable Fuzes; and six (6) AN/AAQ-33 Sniper Pods. Also included are fourteen (14) Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System II; fourteen (14) AN/ALQ-213 Electronic Warfare Management Systems; sixteen (16) AN/ALQ-211 Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suites; sixteen (16) AN/ALE-47 Countermeasure Dispensers; Advanced Identification Friend or Foe (AIFF), Secure Communications and Cryptographic Appliques; Joint Mission Planning System (JMPS); ground training device (flight simulator); Electronic Combat International Security Assistance Program (ECISAP) support; software and support; facilities and construction support; spares and repair/replace parts; personnel training and training equipment; publications and technical documentation; missile containers; DSU-38A/B Illuminated Target Detector (GBU-54); munition support and test equipment; aircraft and munition integration and test support; studies and surveys; U.S. Government and contractor technical, engineering and logistical support services; and other related elements of logistics and program support. The estimated total cost is $2.91 billion.

This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a NATO partner that is an important force for ensuring peace and stability in Europe. The proposed sale will support Slovakia’s needs for its own self-defense and support NATO defense goals. Slovakia intends to use these F-16s to modernize its Air Force and strengthen its homeland defense.

Slovakia intends for these aircraft to replace its current fleet of MiG-29s. Slovakia's current fighters are not interoperable with U.S forces or regional allies. Purchase of the F-16V will provide Slovakia with fourth generation fighter aircraft capability that is interoperable with the United States and NATO.

The proposed sale of new F-l 6V's to Slovakia will not impact the regional balance of power.

The prime contractor will be Lockheed Martin, headquartered in Bethesda, Maryland. There are no known offset agreements in conjunction with this sale, however, we expect Slovakia to request some amount of industrial participation. Any offset agreement will be defined in negotiations between the purchaser and the contractor.

Implementation of this proposed sale may require assignment of a small number of U.S. Government representatives (less than 10) and a modest number of contractor representatives (less than 50) to Slovakia. It is likely that no permanent U.S. persons will actually be required in country.

There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law and does not mean the sale has been concluded.

All questions regarding this proposed Foreign Military Sale should be directed to the State Department's Bureau of Political Military Affairs, Office of Congressional and Public Affairs, pm-cpa@state.gov.

Re: Slovakia's intersted for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 07 Apr 2018, 00:09
by vilters
Am I the only one waiting for that "magic 5.000 build" number?

He who buys that SN5.000 should get SN5.001 for free. :D

Re: Slovakia's intersted for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 07 Apr 2018, 09:24
by Patriot
vilters wrote:Am I the only one waiting for that "magic 5.000 build" number?

He who buys that SN5.000 should get SN5.001 for free. :D


If there would be "like button" here avilable underneath your post Id click it! :drool:

Ps. Poland is also about to make a decision in this matter, likely another 30+ new F-16s will be ordered

Re: Slovakia's intersted for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 12 Jul 2018, 03:36
by pmi
Slovakia selects F-16 over Gripen for new fighter

Slovakia has decided to purchase 14 new Lockheed Martin F-16 fighters to replace its Russian made MiG-29 jets.

The Slovakian Defence Ministry’s announcement Wednesday means the F-16 has beat out the Saab Gripen.

In a statement on the ministry’s website, Defence Minister Peter Gajdoš said the U.S. jets were selected because they are “state-of-the-art modern machines,” and the ministry statement said the U.S. planes were cheaper according to an analysis done through 2040.

...cont

Re: Slovakia's intersted for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 12 Jul 2018, 22:01
by SpudmanWP
F-16V cheaper than Gripen
After years of hesitation, Slovakia has finally opted to buy 14 Lockheed F-16V Block 70/72 fighters for 1.6 billion euros, a price it says is 8 percent lower than the Gripen fighters offered by Saab.

https://www.defense-aerospace.com/artic ... llion.html

Re: Slovakia's intersted for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 12 Jul 2018, 22:09
by juretrn
But I thought Gripen was practically free compared to anything else?!

Re: Slovakia's intersted for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 13 Jul 2018, 01:39
by gc
We are looking at airframes of nearly the same kinematic performance. It is clear that the F-16 is far superior in its support base and sensors. Good win!

Re: Slovakia's intersted for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 14 Jul 2018, 00:55
by firebase99
juretrn wrote:But I thought Gripen was practically free compared to anything else?!


Its also a late model 5th gen airframe with VLO better than the Raptor.

Re: Slovakia's intersted for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 14 Jul 2018, 20:39
by viper12
Obviously false ; we all know it's a 6th gen : http://aviationweek.com/defense/saab-s- ... e-fighters

More than 4 years rolling on the floor since this news appeared ! :twisted:

Re: Slovakia's intersted for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 14 Jul 2018, 21:18
by juretrn
viper12 wrote:Obviously false ; we all know it's a 6th gen : http://aviationweek.com/defense/saab-s- ... e-fighters

More than 4 years rolling on the floor since this news appeared ! :twisted:

Does this mean F-16V is the world's first 7th gen?

Re: Slovakia's intersted for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 06 Sep 2018, 19:31
by basher54321
B70 Slovakia.JPG
F-16 Block 70 for Slovakia (Lockheed Martin)

Re: Slovakia's intersted for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 12 Dec 2018, 12:27
by alippay2
The Slovak Government has officially approved the purchase of the F-16! I am very happy and can say that my dream came true (well, let me say that once F-16 are delivered). :D

Articles are in Slovak language, however brief overview:
    Total List price: EUR 1.589B
    14 F-16 Block 70/72
    I presume that it will be 12 Cs and 2Ds
    This includes weapons/ammunition, training, logistical support
    Delivery starts in 2023
    Until then, Slovakia will utilize fleet of MiG-29AS/UBS (12 should be in a flyable condition, but I am very pessimistic. 3 are on a stby (they must be available); if we have 5 planes in flying condition I would consider that very good)

Last point is a subject of controversy, as the political opposition believes that some oligarchs will profit from regular maintenance on these planes (there are "exclusive" shady agreements with companies that import spare parts from the RF).

http://www.teraz.sk/slovensko/ministri-odobrili-podpis-zmluv-na-naku/366728-clanok.html
https://spravy.pravda.sk/domace/clanok/494902-vlada-odobrila-podpis-zmluv-na-nakup-stihaciek-za-1-6-miliardy-eur/

Re: Slovakia's intersted for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 01 Aug 2019, 18:38
by basher54321
The US Department of Defense (DoD) has awarded Lockheed Martin USD799.9 million to build 14 F-16V Block 70/72 Fighting Falcon multirole combat aircraft for Slovakia.

The award, which was announced by the DoD on 31 July, came seven months after Slovak Prime Minister Peter Pellegrini announced that his government had signed a EUR1.6 billion (USD1.78 billion) procurement contract for the aircraft, training, and weapons.

According to the DoD contract notification, work will be complete by 31 January 2024.

Although not specified in the DoD announcement, Slovakia is to receive 12 single-seat and two twin-seat aircraft, as well as Raytheon AIM-120C7 Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM) and AIM-9X Sidewinder air-to-air missiles. To date, no air-to-surface weaponry has been announced.

As previously reported by Jane's , the Eastern European country will take delivery of the first four aircraft in 2022, two of which will be two-seater variants and the remaining 10 single-seater aircraft in the beginning of 2024.

The F-16V features the Northrop Grumman AN/APG-83 active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar (derived from the F-16E/F Block 60 AN/APG-80 and also known as the Scalable Agile Beam Radar [SABR]), a new Raytheon mission computer, the Link 16 datalink, modern cockpit displays, an enhanced electronic warfare system, and a ground-collision avoidance system.

Slovakia has selected the latest version of the F-16 to replace its fleet of 12 Russian-built MiG-29 'Fulcrum' aircraft that are becoming obsolete (only two or three aircraft are airworthy at any one time). Slovak Ministry of Defence (MoD) sources said it will extend the service-life contract of the MiG-29 fleet until all the F-16s have been received.


https://www.janes.com/article/90215/dod ... r-contract

Re: Slovakia's interested for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 02 Aug 2019, 11:38
by Patriot
"Block 70/72"

Either 70 or 72. So which one is it?

Re: Slovakia's interested for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 03 Aug 2019, 15:02
by basher54321
Not seen anything conclusive on that yet.

Re: Slovakia's interested for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 11 Sep 2019, 05:53
by boilermaker
No word on whether it will be the GE -135 engines or the older -120s equipping the F16-V

Re: Slovakia's interested for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 11 Sep 2019, 15:57
by Boman
GE-135 is for the F-35A, so for sure not that engine. It will likely be PW100-220E as this is what most European users use.

Re: Slovakia's interested for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 11 Sep 2019, 17:06
by marsavian
Surely for a new build it will either be a GE -129 or a PW -229.

Re: Slovakia's interested for F-16V

Unread postPosted: 11 Sep 2019, 18:22
by basher54321
Yes PW-229 or GE-129 advertised for new builds - the only GE-132 seen was part of Indias Block 70 / F-21 proposal.