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Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2006, 16:11
by Guysmiley
We'll have to wait for the investigation results to know if it was an engine related issue.

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2006, 16:16
by elp
Damn. Seat and life support peeps don't need any extra motivation to do their job well. Good grief.

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2006, 16:20
by blk40crewdawg
Even if it was an engine issue, 75% of all C/D models have GE engines...so that would mean a higher percentage of GE related issues...Pratt had a run of bad luck with their engines at Luke a few years back. It could happen to either....

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2006, 16:27
by Aramount
this week was probably the most flying (outside of a phaseII) ive seen on this base in the past 2 years that ive been here, really doesnt suprise me that a jet went down when the amu's are struggling to meet crew shows with the manning they have.

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2006, 16:30
by RoAF
If I'm correct, all three are GE engined machines.. a pattern?


Not a pattern, just pure statistic rules applied in the real world. We all know that about 3/4 of the C/D fleet is equipped with GE engines. So if you have more of them, it's more likely that when one goes down it's a GE equipped (75% chance)

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2006, 18:02
by AfterburnerDecalsScott
but it took about 30 to 40 minutes for the coast guard to show up.


To the base, or over the pilot? I noticed the article said a navy ship fished him out, but saw the news footage that showed them offloading him from a helo. Still incredulous about the 2 hour thing.....30-40 minutes sounds more reasonable.

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2006, 18:28
by Storms24
Any word on the status of the pilot?? Heard RUMINT that he suffered broken bones & hypothermia....

Springfield, IL

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2006, 20:18
by BlueFoxGuitar
Used to work at Shaw back when 542 was still part of the 78th (helped to move the all the assets down to the 55th). It was a good jet to crew, even thought it wasn't mine. Hey Pump, used to work with you, been quite a while, how ya doin?

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2006, 22:49
by Lieven
Storms24 wrote:Any word on the status of the pilot?? Heard RUMINT that he suffered broken bones & hypothermia...


The Coast Guard said the pilot suffered broken legs, facial cuts and a broken wrist.

See: http://www.f-16.net/news_article1737.html

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2006, 23:01
by AfterburnerDecalsScott
Making more sense now......he was in the water with a rescue swimmer for a piece until the squids showed up.....I knew that whole time frame seemed off. I couldn't imagine it took the coasties 2 hours to find him.

So, I also read where the area where he went down was cleared for supersonic speed....and article spicer, or was he sonic or near sonic when he bailed I wonder?

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2006, 23:04
by mud_ninja84
Yeah, we were surging this week. Undermanned and overworked. 4 go's avg. 14 ea. per squadron avg. I don't know whether or not this was a maintenance mistake. I doubt it was a pilot error, but it's probable to be a wtf.

Rumor has it that he was going 700kts when he bailed! Reason still unknown, but I'd punch out if my surfaces weren't working right...

Not only was he in for 2 hours, but he had multiple injuries - it's amazing this pilot didn't go into shock from his fractures and go under!

BTW, this explains the bullet theory on the navy ship and coastie chopper:
http://wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4735656

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2006, 23:05
by akruse21
Ex-Chief wrote:I have cross trained to Airfield Management and I was on duty at Shaw yesterday when the accident happened. I can confirm that the Tail was 542, the callsign was Brag21. We got the call from tower at around 1745 and called out the crash net.

Shaw recalled all aircraft save for 3 that diverted to Charleston and 3 that stayed out there, we then launched out two more to replace the others since they were running out of fuel. This was the last go of the day during a pretty heavy week of flying. They had been pitting all week and today I haven't heard too much flying.

As you can imagine, we were getting bombarded with calls about whether the pilot had been recovered in the minutes after the accident, but it took about 30 to 40 minutes for the coast guard to show up. The aircraft went down in the Doubleshot Airspace of W177B about 30 miles from the coast.

Personal tidbit here: This is the fourth accident I have been involved in, in some way. I did the intake inspections on 2006 and 2111 before they went down at Hill in 2002 and I was on duty in Base Ops when the last Shaw jet went down last year. I think I am bad luck.


The 15 that went down here in 01 was launched out by the same guy who is the DCC and launched out the last jet to go down here a couple of months ago. Now that's luck.

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2006, 23:19
by AfterburnerDecalsScott
rumor has it that he was going 700kts when he bailed! reason still unknown, but i'd punch out if my surfaces weren't working right...


That would explain the flail injuries then....holy smokes!

Unread postPosted: 07 Apr 2006, 18:58
by LinkF16SimDude
700 knots?!! YEESHHH! Brings back recollections of the Mudhen crew that punched out above the Mach. Man...that hadda hurt!

Unread postPosted: 07 Apr 2006, 19:38
by RoAF
Brings back recollections of the Mudhen crew that punched out above the Mach. Man...that hadda hurt!


Actually the guy in the back seat lost his life on that one. They ejected at over 780 mph.