Operation Odyssey Dawn/Unified Protector

Unread postPosted: 17 Mar 2011, 04:27
by geogen
As reported by Lieven Dewitte, 4 RDAF F-16s are preparing for any partial no-fly zone enforcement mission which could be ordered by NATO, or possibly decided by a coalition of a willing Euro-US action.

These would likely be aircraft upgraded with very modern capabilities, some of which USAF do not even employ or fund.

I hope a no-fly zone is not necessary, but if it is put into service one has to respect RDAF crew involved.

Peace to Libya. Respects -

RE: F-16s prepared for No Fly Zone in Lybia

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 00:19
by discofishing
These would likely be aircraft upgraded with very modern capabilities, some of which USAF do not even employ or fund.


Like what?

RE: F-16s prepared for No Fly Zone in Lybia

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 00:49
by runi_dk
They are now sending 6 F-16's :) seems that two of those will be in reserve, and a transport plane (C130J maybe?) too. It's anticipated that they will leave Saturday morning.

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 03:46
by VarkVet
"Get Some" :thumb:

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 09:50
by geogen
Looks like either an early test was made to see if No-fly means no-fly, or a possible manpad hit its target. My gut feeling (and hope) is that conditions for a cease-fire and for the next-stages to follow will be negotiated soon.

Mig-23? Hope the pilot got out... if not, RIP.

http://twitpic.com/4aycsd/full

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 12:09
by sciafer
Time to "rock & roll"......get some!

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 17:09
by Asif
Greek Reporter wrote:6 Belgian F-16 deployed in Greece – Dutch aircraft still to come against Libya?
Posted on 19 March 2011 by Apostolos Papapostolou

Six Belgian F-16 fighter jets are currently stationed at the Greek air base of Araxos, near the city of Patras. The fighter jets together with a frigate in the Mediterranean Sea have been deployed in the context of a possible NATO military intervention against Libya. The Belgian government is ready to participate in a military action in Libya NATO umbrella, European Affairs Minister Oliver Chastel said Friday. The government decided to “tell NATO that we are available, offer what we have and wait for a common command” Chastel told reporters after a government meeting (AFP ). It has not been revealed when the F-16 arrived in Greece.

Prime Minister and Socialist International President George Papandreou departed for Paris on Saturday in order to attend a meeting organised by French President Nicolas Sarkozy to discuss the UN Security Council resolution for Libya.

A warplane crashed in flames in a residential area of Benghazi (photo), triggering celebratory gunfire from the rebels, but an insurgent commander later admitted it was one of theirs and had been shot down by Gaddafi’s forces.

The pilot ejected from the aircraft, which was initially identified as a Russian-built MiG-23 fighter but said later to have been a French-made Mirage.

source: http://greece.greekreporter.com/2011/03 ... nst-libya/

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 17:17
by Asif
Royal Danish Air Force wrote:F-16 bound for Sicily
By Lars Skjoldan 19-03-2011

Six Danish F-16 fighter jets took off Saturday morning, bound for Naval Air Station Sigonella in Sicily.

132 soldiers and a quantity of goods arrive during Saturday 19 March at Naval Air Station Sigonella in Sicily's southern tip. It is an Italian naval base with a permanent U.S. presence.

The Danish soldiers are using flight day today to find their feet and put the equipment up and it is expected that they are ready to engage in international cooperation during Sunday.

- Our staff is ready, "said Maj. Gen. Henry Røboe Dam and continues:
- I am sure that pilots have little butterflies in my stomach right now, but they are well prepared for the tasks they may encounter.

Image

source: http://forsvaret.dk/FTK/Nyt%20og%20Pres ... ilien.aspx

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 18:24
by FlightDreamz
Geogen
Mig-23? Hope the pilot got out... if not, RIP.

Looks like a MiG-23/27 to my untrained eye as well. See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/1 ... 37911.html I echo your sentiments that I hope the pilot survived (looks like he ejected awfully low). Have mixed emotions that N.A.T.O. and the U.S. are getting drawn into this. See <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/19/extremists-among-libya-rebels_n_837894.html">Anti-America Extremists among Libyan Rebels</a> (doesn't the U.S. have enough bad blood in the Muslim world already)? Hopefully they'll be a resolution to this crisis relatively soon (although I highly doubt that). I don't relish the idea of the U.S, being involved in Iraq, Afghanistan AND Libya too - might be time to bring back the draft (but Congress will never go for that).

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 18:25
by moti
Looks like it started! Good luck!

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 18:41
by moti
Here is a video of how Mig was shot down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YDR-0Sg ... r_embedded

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 19:04
by Boman
Norway is to send 6 F-16's. Will supposedly take 5-10 days, something I cannot understand at all? Thought the NRF was to be deloyable in 24 hours roughly?

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 19:15
by Butcher
FlightDreamz wrote:
Geogen
Mig-23? Hope the pilot got out... if not, RIP.

Looks like a MiG-23/27 to my untrained eye as well. See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/1 ... 37911.html I echo your sentiments that I hope the pilot survived (looks like he ejected awfully low). Have mixed emotions that N.A.T.O. and the U.S. are getting drawn into this. See <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/19/extremists-among-libya-rebels_n_837894.html">Anti-America Extremists among Libyan Rebels</a> (doesn't the U.S. have enough bad blood in the Muslim world already)? Hopefully they'll be a resolution to this crisis relatively soon (although I highly doubt that). I don't relish the idea of the U.S, being involved in Iraq, Afghanistan AND Libya too - might be time to bring back the draft (but Congress will never go for that).


Looks like a -23, Mig-27s do not have radar if i remember correctly and as such they don't have a round nose like the pic shown. If you look closely you can see the nose antenna for the radar.

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 19:57
by Butcher
According to Wikipedia (yeah i know not the most reliable source) it's a Mig-23BN:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Air_Force

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 20:11
by discofishing
Looks like a MiG-23/27 to my untrained eye as well. See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/1 ... 37911.html I echo your sentiments that I hope the pilot survived (looks like he ejected awfully low). Have mixed emotions that N.A.T.O. and the U.S. are getting drawn into this. See Anti-America Extremists among Libyan Rebels (doesn't the U.S. have enough bad blood in the Muslim world already)? Hopefully they'll be a resolution to this crisis relatively soon (although I highly doubt that). I don't relish the idea of the U.S, being involved in Iraq, Afghanistan AND Libya too - might be time to bring back the draft (but Congress will never go for that).

That's one the big reasons I wish we would stay out of this. Those extremists may warm up to us at first, but they'll stab us in the backs later on.

If we intervene over there on behalf of the rebels, I wonder how many of those clowns are going to shoot at aircraft that are actually trying to protect them, either by mistake or the fact that they belong to the "great devil".

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 20:13
by Butcher
The Mig-23 apparently was of the Free Libyan Air Force and could have been shot down by Friendly Fire:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011 ... 168434.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O92YiMXVsWg

Re: RE: F-16s prepared for No Fly Zone in Lybia

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 21:03
by mjoelner
discofishing wrote:
These would likely be aircraft upgraded with very modern capabilities, some of which USAF do not even employ or fund.


Like what?


Like this: http://www.terma.dk/multimedia/4868_pbl ... screen.pdf

Basically just a clever way of using off the shelf components. Like ECM from the US Navy and missile approach warners from EADS.

Apart from that, the european EPAF F16s are kept as similar to their american counterparts as possible. But they do have stuff like JHMCS and IFF interrogators and I don't remember seeing that on other pre block 50s ? I believe USAF doesn't have as much focus on the air to air role for the F-16?

Re: RE: F-16s prepared for No Fly Zone in Lybia

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 21:16
by Siesta
mjoelner wrote:
discofishing wrote:
These would likely be aircraft upgraded with very modern capabilities, some of which USAF do not even employ or fund.


Like what?


Like this: http://www.terma.dk/multimedia/4868_pbl ... screen.pdf

Basically just a clever way of using off the shelf components. Like ECM from the US Navy and missile approach warners from EADS.

Apart from that, the european EPAF F16s are kept as similar to their american counterparts as possible. But they do have stuff like JHMCS and IFF interrogators and I don't remember seeing that on other pre block 50s ? I believe USAF doesn't have as much focus on the air to air role for the F-16?


Block 40s have JHMCs and the US has F-16 national guard squadrons stationed throughout the US which fly the air defense role - air to air which there are more squadrons of these than European squadrons.

RE: Re: RE: F-16s prepared for No Fly Zone in Lybia

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 22:13
by Asif
AllVoices wrote:Greece decides its military participation against Libya
Athens : Greece | Mar 18, 2011
By WiredGreek

While the NATO is still struggling to decide on how to proceed against Libya, Greece seems to have taken its political decisions as to what role it will play in a joined forces operation against Muammar Gaddafi. Greek media reported tonight that Greek armed forces will participate in coalition operations, however not in the operational part targeting Libyan soil. Greece will assist in humanitarian, arms embargo control and no fly zone surveillance missions.

Greece will apparently provide 4 F-16 fighter jets, 1 radar aircraft ERIYE, 2 Super Puma helicopters and 1 frigate, with the possibility for more.

The air and naval base at Souda Bay, Crete, and the Aktio Air Base,Preveza, will most likely be used for deployment and refueling but not for bombing take offs.

The fighter jets will control over the war zone, the frigates off the Gulf of Sirte while the Super Puma will perform search and rescue missions. The radar aircraft will operate within Athens FIR.

The decisions were taken earlier today at an extra ordinary meeting with the military, defence and diplomatic leadership of the country under the chairmanship of Prime Minister GeorgeGeorge Papandreou.

Defence Minister Evaggelos Venizelos stated after the meeting that Greece will comply with the UN resolution and the NATO decisions.

Final decisions will be taken most likely tomorrow after the NATO role is being cleared.

Of course, there is still the question open as to what Athens will do, should the NATO fail to get involved. France opposes a North Atlantic Allinace action against an Arab country. For the time being it looks as if there will be a coalition of Gaddafi-foes under the leadership of UK, France and USA. In this case Souda and Aktio bases will not be used.

On political level, prime minister George Papandreou had atelephone conversation with his Libyan counterpart Al-Baghdadi Ali Al-Mahmoudi and urged him to comply immediately with the UN resolution.

source: http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-ne ... inst-libya

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 22:20
by runi_dk
Here are the 6 F-16s on the base Sigonella in Sicily, Italy.

I see <a href="http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F-16/airframe-profile/2205/">E-008</a> and <a href="http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F-16/airframe-profile/2534/">E-016</a>.

Re: RE: F-16s prepared for No Fly Zone in Lybia

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 22:57
by mjoelner
Block 40s have JHMCs and the US has F-16 national guard squadrons stationed throughout the US which fly the air defense role - air to air which there are more squadrons of these than European squadrons.


OK I'm glad to hear that :-) I was under the impression that the F-16 had little street cred as an air to air fighter after the Gulf war? Some of the danish F-16s are old USAF block 15 planes. We got them quite cheap after that conflict 8) Something about the aircraft having nine times less space for avionics than the F-15. I guess the later updates changed that perception?

Anyway here is a video showing a danish F-16 getting an italian Eurofighter in the gunsight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAedQ7FMiKo

I'm afraid the voice-over is in danish, but he is saying something like "the F16 is surprisingly agile once both planes have slowed down". Or something to that effect.

Unread postPosted: 19 Mar 2011, 23:53
by Lasse
Boman wrote:Norway is to send 6 F-16's. Will supposedly take 5-10 days, something I cannot understand at all? Thought the NRF was to be deloyable in 24 hours roughly?

I too cannot understand this at all. Especially since an article I read earlier had an interview with Air Force personnel who stated preparations were underway as soon as the resolution was enacted, in other words they started preparing days before they got the go-ahead from the government.

In other news: 'An un-named French official tells the AFP news agency that the UAE has pledged 24 aircraft to the coalition and Qatar between 4&6.'

It would appear the Block 60 will finally see battle, albeit at most doing some ground pounding. Unless of course a Libyan pilot or two feel adventurous/suicidal.

RE: Re: RE: F-16s prepared for No Fly Zone in Lybia

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 00:07
by discofishing
Like this: http://www.terma.dk/multimedia/4868_pbl ... screen.pdf

Basically just a clever way of using off the shelf components. Like ECM from the US Navy and missile approach warners from EADS.

Apart from that, the european EPAF F16s are kept as similar to their american counterparts as possible. But they do have stuff like JHMCS and IFF interrogators and I don't remember seeing that on other pre block 50s ? I believe USAF doesn't have as much focus on the air to air role for the F-16?

Who else uses the TERMA system? I know the Netherlands uses a similar system on their Apaches and Chinooks. It's a pretty cool design and probably way easier to install on aircraft when compared to CMWS/MAWS. Does anyone know if the US F-16s have similar capabilities to detect IR missiles (AAR-47/AAR-57)?

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 00:14
by VarkVet
Lasse wrote:
Boman wrote:Norway is to send 6 F-16's. Will supposedly take 5-10 days, something I cannot understand at all? Thought the NRF was to be deloyable in 24 hours roughly?

I too cannot understand this at all. Especially since an article I read earlier had an interview with Air Force personnel who stated preparations were underway as soon as the resolution was enacted, in other words they started preparing days before they got the go-ahead from the government.

In other news: 'An un-named French official tells the AFP news agency that the UAE has pledged 24 aircraft to the coalition and Qatar between 4&6.'

It would appear the Block 60 will finally see battle, albeit at most doing some ground pounding. Unless of course a Libyan pilot or two feel adventurous/suicidal.


I’m sure Norway could have easily deployed in 24 hours. We have this thing called Command and Control and right now I believe we have too many “cooks in the kitchen” Right now I don’t think anyone knows what’s going on! Too bad the F-35 isn’t operational, because you only need to fly a couple of those in the AOR and everyone would take cover! :roll:

Best wishes to all involved :salute:

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 00:52
by Siesta
VarkVet wrote:I’m sure Norway could have easily deployed in 24 hours. We have this thing called Command and Control and right now I believe we have too many “cooks in the kitchen” Right now I don’t think anyone knows what’s going on! Too bad the F-35 isn’t operational, because you only need to fly a couple of those in the AOR and everyone would take cover!

Hmm your really think nobody knows whats going on or too many cooks in the kitchen? and then it will only take two F-35s? I disagree...

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 01:17
by VarkVet
Siesta wrote:Hmm your really think nobody knows whats going on or too many cooks in the kitchen? and then it will only take two F-35s? I disagree...

I'm sure you do Grasshopper ..."seek not to know the answers, but to understand the questions"

Re: RE: F-16s prepared for No Fly Zone in Lybia

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 06:57
by geogen
Regarding the RoNAF F-16 deployment being reported: perhaps they will rotate in to relieve RNLAF or someone, via a planned sequence (rather than the too many cooks in the kitchen deal, eh)? Or perhaps there is some late-upgrade system undergoing integration, e.g., their new MILDS F-Terma ?? Either way, I guess if it's public info then we'll read about it here first, right!

Anyway, respects to Libyans... they will need to reconcile (as well as region) and work together after this crisis. p.s., regarding some of the comments around the net on this topic, I'm pretty sure an equal message is being sent out by Arab League and Regional powers involved, that any post-conflict extremist elements will not be tolerated in political control as well. The various Libyan factions themselves will need to isolate them once the dust settles. imho.

RE: Re: RE: F-16s prepared for No Fly Zone in Lybia

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 13:30
by Bjorn
So as far as F-16 operations are concerned we have the following build-up already:

Belgium: 6
Denmark: 6
Norway: 6
Greece: 4

From the USAF aircraft of the 480th FS have already been spotted. Either flying straight from Spangdahlem AFB or dispersed to Aviano AFB. Most probably the 510th and 555th FS are also conducting some operations over the area. Unknown factors to the number of F-16 involved is the participation of the Netherlands which hasn't put forward any numbers yet and also the participation of the UAE where it's not sure whether they will deploy Mirage 2000 airframes or the block 60.

Greets,

RE: Re: RE: F-16s prepared for No Fly Zone in Lybia

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 13:56
by Butcher
Someone keeps editing my post and adding links and photos :)

CNN is reporting that Eagles, Vipers, Harriers and B-2s were part of 19 U.S aircraft which performed strike operations:

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/20/li ... fi-forces/

RE: Re: RE: F-16s prepared for No Fly Zone in Lybia

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 15:38
by Asif
Aviano Air Base wrote:Coalition launches 'Operation Odyssey Dawn'
Posted 3/20/2011
by Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service

3/20/2011 - WASHINGTON -- Coalition forces launched "Operation Odyssey Dawn" March 19 to enforce U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973 to protect the Libyan people from the country's ruler.

The goal of the military coalition is to prevent further attacks by regime forces on Libyan citizens, officials said, adding that the coalition also wants to degrade the ability of Moammar Gadhafi's regime to resist a no-fly zone being implemented.

U.S. military forces are on the leading edge of the coalition operation, taking out Libya's integrated air and missile defense system, Defense Department officials said. The ordnance is aimed at radars and anti-aircraft sites around the capital of Tripoli and other facilities along the Mediterranean coast.

Joint Task Force Odyssey Dawn is commanded by U.S. Navy Adm. Samuel J. Locklear aboard the command ship USS Mount Whitney. The Mount Whitney joins 24 other ships from Italy, Canada, the United Kingdom and France in launching the operation.

Cruise missiles from U.S. submarines and frigates began the attack on the anti-aircraft system. A senior defense official speaking on background said the attacks will "open up the environment so we could enforce the no-fly zone from east to west throughout Libya."

In addition to the cruise missiles, the United States will provide command and control and logistics. American Airmen and Ssailors also will launch electronic attacks against the systems.

The United Kingdom, France, Italy and Canada already have announced that they are part of the coalition. Officials expect Arab countries will publicly announce their participation soon.

source: http://www.aviano.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123247692

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 18:26
by Bjorn
If anyone knows more serials of participating F-16s, please do share them with us. We already have the total Belgian complement and a few Danish numbers.

Greets,

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 18:26
by Asif
Build up of forces.

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 19:33
by Lieven
AFP reports that the United Arab Emirates will be contributing 24 fighter jets (Mirage 2000-9s and F-16s).

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 20:47
by discofishing
AFP reports that the United Arab Emirates will be contributing 24 fighter jets (Mirage 2000-9s and F-16s).

I honestly didn't expect the Arab League to contribute combat aircraft.

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 22:12
by runi_dk
Bjorn wrote:If anyone knows more serials of participating F-16s, please do share them with us. We already have the total Belgian complement and a few Danish numbers.

Just reviewed some video, I see two tail numbers, not sure if they are useful.

[serial]80-3596[/serial] and [serial]83-1075[/serial], if they video quality was better I could have seen almost all of them.

Edit: Another pic: [serial]88-0016[/serial]

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Two updates..
The 4 Danish F-16's that took off around 15:00 (UTC+1) have now landed after a 5 hour mission. The only thing that is known about the mission is that it's a "High risk mission"..

It has been revealed by a local newspaper that two or tree names of either crew chiefs or fighter pilots have been shown in a picture where the participating F-16's are seen.. they were apparently put on after an exercise in Phoenix. To my limited knowledge, it's not Danish tradition to put names on the air planes. The newspaper researched on the names with the internet, and found their address, family members, work place and such.

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 22:29
by viper0606
Bjorn wrote:If anyone knows more serials of participating F-16s, please do share them with us. We already have the total Belgian complement and a few Danish numbers.

Greets,


Care to share them?

Remy..

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 22:58
by LinkF16SimDude
runi_dk wrote:It has been revealed by a local newspaper that two or tree names of either crew chiefs or fighter pilots have been shown in a picture where the participating F-16's are seen.. they were apparently put on after an exercise in Phoenix. To my limited knowledge, it's not Danish tradition to put names on the air planes. The newspaper researched on the names with the internet, and found their address, family members, work place and such.
:wtf: If they printed that info and if I were the MoD I'd yank that editor into a nice quiet room and read him the Riot Act for posting that during on ongoing op. But that's just me. Maybe they see it differently in Denmark than in the US.

Even if the driver/crew chief whose name was on the jet isn't part of the deployed package, it puts him and his family in danger of retaliation from the nut jobs looking for retribution. It's called Operational Security for a reason, Mr. Editor. :bang: :evil:

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 23:18
by VarkVet
LinkF16SimDude wrote:If they printed that info and if I were the MoD I'd yank that editor into a nice quiet room and read him the Riot Act for posting that during on ongoing op. But that's just me. Maybe they see it differently in Denmark than in the US.

Even if the driver/crew chief whose name was on the jet isn't part of the deployed package, it puts him and his family in danger of retaliation from the nut jobs looking for retribution. It's called Operational Security for a reason, Mr. Editor.

I agree... I thought we learned that lesson in Serbia? :shock:

RE: Re: RE: F-16s prepared for No Fly Zone in Lybia

Unread postPosted: 20 Mar 2011, 23:26
by discofishing
In other news: 'An un-named French official tells the AFP news agency that the UAE has pledged 24 aircraft to the coalition and Qatar between 4&6.'


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/dfb706e2-518d ... z1HBGvspRA

This article confirms Arab League member participation but says the UAE will be sitting this one out. Who knows if it's accurate or not.

Unread postPosted: 21 Mar 2011, 00:39
by runi_dk
LinkF16SimDude wrote:If they printed that info and if I were the MoD I'd yank that editor into a nice quiet room and read him the Riot Act for posting that during on ongoing op. But that's just me. Maybe they see it differently in Denmark than in the US.

Even if the driver/crew chief whose name was on the jet isn't part of the deployed package, it puts him and his family in danger of retaliation from the nut jobs looking for retribution. It's called Operational Security for a reason, Mr. Editor.

Yes, it was stupid for them to make headlines with it, even though the surnames are obscured, it's easy to find the the full names. They should just have notified the air force and not waved around with it, and contact the families for comments lol. The air force have just commented that they would remove the names which were added at the Red Flag exercise.

Pictures from today:

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Unread postPosted: 21 Mar 2011, 11:40
by falcontot
Here are the 6 numbers on the danish F16AM's at Sigonella navy air base:It's F16am 80-3596[/serial], [serial]80-3601[/serial], [serial]80-3608[/serial], [serial]83-1075[/serial], [serial]87-0008[/serial], [serial]88-0016 an that is the number I have seen on TV an in news papers.

Unread postPosted: 21 Mar 2011, 11:56
by Asif
AP photos, shows 480 FS #91-0360

Unread postPosted: 21 Mar 2011, 14:45
by Lieven
Norwegian TV showed 6 F-16 fighter jets and a KDC-10 tanker leaving Bodø at 10:40 GMT heading for Sigonella.

Meanwhile Danish F-16s launched from Sigonella AB.

Unread postPosted: 21 Mar 2011, 16:49
by energo
The six Norwegian F-16s departed from Bodø MAS at 11:40am CET. They were first bound for Sicily, but were redirected to Crete as Sigonella NAS is reaching its capacity. Two C-130Js and about 120 personell from the 132nd and 138th air wings are supporting the operation which has an initial scope of three months.

Link to external video


B. Bolsøy
Oslo

Unread postPosted: 21 Mar 2011, 17:36
by abdo_salah999
I will transfer news from the Arabic sources

URGENT: Belgian F-16 targeting battalions in Alzentan.

Unread postPosted: 21 Mar 2011, 18:22
by Cash
Belgian tv VRT showed Belgian F-16's take of from Greece.
I was too late to note a serial, but they were visible.

Unread postPosted: 21 Mar 2011, 19:19
by energo
Danish update.

According to Danish news media three Danish F-16s took part in a three-hour mission late Sunday. Prior to that a five-hour mission involving four F-16s was completed. As of Monday evening four patrol sorties have been flown and no weapons have been employed.

Link to external video


B. Bolsøy
Oslo

Norwegian F-16s take off today [Video]

Unread postPosted: 21 Mar 2011, 21:03
by falnorcon16
See 5 of the 6 F16 take off from Bodø Airport in the far north of Norway earlier today here:

http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/nordland/1.7557891

What a sight ! - What a sound !


http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/03/20/n... ... /15879797/



On march 19th 2011 the Norwegian government authorized The Royal Norwegian Air Force to head for Libya and prepare for missions there. Norway has approved 6 General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon fighters and necessary personnel. The fighters headed for Greece today and will operate from the Souda Air Base in Souda Bay on Greece .


The Norway has prepared for an up to 3 month long mission for starters

Unread postPosted: 21 Mar 2011, 21:55
by Lieven
These 8 F-16's departed last Monday morning to Araxos for a Sqn exchange with the Greek air force. Six of those aircraft will be used in the Libya actions:

BAF501: [serial]FA-103[/serial]
BAF502: [serial]FA-56[/serial]
BAF503: [serial]FA-81[/serial]
BAF504: [serial]FA-123[/serial]
BAF511: [serial]FA-116[/serial]
BAF512: [serial]FB-20[/serial]
BAF513: [serial]FA-82[/serial]
BAF514: [serial]FA-136[/serial]

According to sources on Twitter (http://twitter.com/FMCNL): "Belgian Air Force F-16 fighters entered Malta ACC today at 15:00UTC: TROX 11 tail #FA82 and TROX 13 tail #FA136."

The first mission of the Belgian F-16s was concluded without any intervention. Four F-16's verified the no-fly zone. They patrolled over the Mediterranean sea west of Crete and were supported by AWACS aircraft. The jets safely returned to base (Araxos).

For more info on the F-16s participating in Operation Odyssey Dawn, check our serials database: http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F ... ey%20Dawn/

Unread postPosted: 22 Mar 2011, 00:24
by Asif

USAF F-16C block 50 #91-0407 from the 480th FS prepares for take-off from Spangdahlem AB in support of Operation Odyssey Dawn on March 19th, 2011. [USAF photo by SrA. Nathanael Callon]


A crew chief with the 52nd AMXS marshals F-16C block 50 #91-0361 from the 480th FS at Spangdahlem AB during Operation Odyssey Dawn on March 20th, 2011. [USAF photo by SSgt. Benjamin Wilson]

Unread postPosted: 22 Mar 2011, 02:42
by ruderamronbo
Try this link if you want to listen to Malta ATC. Mostly jets going in and out of the area but still interesting...

http://www.liveatc.net/flisten.php?mount=lmml

Unread postPosted: 22 Mar 2011, 09:41
by aveng3r
On top of
#91-0407
#91-0361

you can add #91-0472

http://www.flickr.com/photos/africom/5546157136/

Unread postPosted: 22 Mar 2011, 10:52
by Butcher

Unread postPosted: 22 Mar 2011, 10:52
by Asif
aveng3r wrote:you can add #91-0472


Thanks. It's been added to the list. :)

Butcher wrote:I believe this is #90-0828

http://www.flickr.com/photos/africom/55 ... otostream/


Will wait for additional confirmation before adding more 480 FS birds as this picture alone does not prove it was actually used.

Anyone got further serials and photo proofs we can use to backup or update the participants list?

Unread postPosted: 22 Mar 2011, 12:42
by Asif
Slightly off topic: First coalition aircraft loss. A F-15E Strike Eagle from the 'Heath' it would seem has come down in last nights raids. See this post in the forum.

Libya NFZ - Involved types

Unread postPosted: 22 Mar 2011, 21:12
by Scanor
Got some details on the Norwegian contingent.

78-0285 "285" F-16AM
80-0662 "662" F-16AM
80-0668 "668" F-16AM
80-0674 "674" F-16AM
80-0678 "678" F-16AM
80-0680 "680" F-16AM

Unread postPosted: 22 Mar 2011, 21:17
by joost
Dutch F-16s will be deployed to contribute to Odyssey Dawn. This evening the decision was made. Number of a/c not known, yet.

Unread postPosted: 22 Mar 2011, 21:52
by Dag
Scanor wrote:Got some details on the Norwegian contingent.

78-0285 "285" F-16AM
80-0662 "662" F-16AM
80-0668 "668" F-16AM
80-0674 "674" F-16AM
80-0678 "678" F-16AM
80-0680 "680" F-16AM


You do off course mean:

78-0285 "285" F-16AM
80-3662 "662" F-16AM
80-3668 "668" F-16AM
80-3674 "674" F-16AM
80-3678 "678" F-16AM
80-3680 "680" F-16AM


Best
Dag

Unread postPosted: 23 Mar 2011, 12:36
by Asif
510 FS #[serial]89-2008[/serial][/b]
480 FS [b]#[serial]91-0366[/serial]

Unread postPosted: 23 Mar 2011, 15:05
by Butcher

Unread postPosted: 23 Mar 2011, 21:48
by Seadragon
480 FS: 342, 360, 351, 352, 361, 366, 403, 407, 416, 818, 828 all seen in Aviano this week

Unread postPosted: 23 Mar 2011, 21:57
by falnorcon16
F-16s of the Royal Norwegian Airforce at the Souda Bay Base in Greece:

Unread postPosted: 24 Mar 2011, 03:22
by geogen
Thanks for great pics, norcon16.

Is it public, if the deployed RNoAF F-16s are equipped with the recently acquired MILDS-F MWS Terma pylon? I was thinking it might be too early for full integration and from the photo, it appears to show an older Terma pylon kit. Anyway, another question would be if they are deployed with AIM-9 or IRIS-T? The Sniper ATP + IRIS-T match would seem to command serious respect in any exercise.

I really hope the conflict is over ASAP, for everyone's sake, and can be negotiated to include a solid resolution and for an acceptable process going forward. But respects to RNoAF F-16 crews if they are required to put into NFZ service. It is truly impressive how much military service has been squeezed out of these nor F-16s among others. They deserve a service-investment trophy imho.

Unread postPosted: 24 Mar 2011, 07:25
by Butcher
The red-orange pod is that a Data Link or a travel pod?

Unread postPosted: 24 Mar 2011, 16:27
by Asif
#89-2049

SSgt. Bryan Holloway, 510th AMU avionics craftsman, performs scheduled radar threat warning maintenance on F-16C Block 40 #89-2049 from 510 FS on March 21, 2011, at Aviano AB. The aircraft will deploy in support of Operation Odyssey Dawn. [USAF photo by A1C Katherine Windish]

Unread postPosted: 24 Mar 2011, 17:08
by falnorcon16
geogen wrote:Thanks for great pics, norcon16.

Is it public, if the deployed RNoAF F-16s are equipped with the recently acquired MILDS-F MWS Terma pylon? I was thinking it might be too early for full integration and from the photo, it appears to show an older Terma pylon kit. Anyway, another question would be if they are deployed with AIM-9 or IRIS-T? The Sniper ATP + IRIS-T match would seem to command serious respect in any exercise.

I really hope the conflict is over ASAP, for everyone's sake, and can be negotiated to include a solid resolution and for an acceptable process going forward. But respects to RNoAF F-16 crews if they are required to put into NFZ service. It is truly impressive how much military service has been squeezed out of these nor F-16s among others. They deserve a service-investment trophy imho.



I don't really know what kind of arsenal they use on this occation. However I beleave the AIM 9 has been or is about to be replaced by the IRIS-T. The official Norwegian airforce webpage mentioned these weapons as beeing in Norway airforce inventory: (AIM 9 L "Sidewinder", AIM 120 "AMRAAM", Penguin Mk 3, GBU-12, Mark 82 ) Wether they use all these in this conflict is an open question. I don't know how uppdated the official page is.


I reallly wish the airforce would have pulled out the new JSM missile developed in Norway. But it is originally developed for the F35 wich Norway is about to purchase ( Can be used with other aicraft too ), but I am not sure if the the version for fighters are ready and in production yet. ( The navy version is )

NSM / JSF missile:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Strike_Missile



The Norwegian F16 has now been asigned to the US North African branch and the Odyssey Dawn operation. Two of the F16 today took of from the base in Greece for Libya.

Unread postPosted: 24 Mar 2011, 17:08
by JochemP
Butcher wrote:The red-orange pod is that a Data Link or a travel pod?


Travel pod.

Cheers.

Unread postPosted: 24 Mar 2011, 17:14
by europatches
Dutch F16's left this afternoon from Leeuwarden: J-008, 009, 060, 362, 616, 868 to Deci (NAF322/327)
From Eindhoven KDC-10 T-264 NAF65 also to Decimomanu

Unread postPosted: 24 Mar 2011, 17:27
by JochemP
Accordind to a news tv station a libyan a/c was shot down by L'armee del air.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/war-libya-moammar-gadhafi-warplane-misrata-shot-french/story?id=13210685

A jet was sent over the city of Misrata challenging the NFZ and shot down by french fighter jets, according to the site, the jet was a Galeb.

Unread postPosted: 24 Mar 2011, 17:41
by aveng3r
The Libyan plane was not shot down per se... it was shot on the ground after it landed. :P

The french have been busy last night bombing the airfield near Hun.

Unread postPosted: 24 Mar 2011, 18:34
by JochemP
aveng3r wrote:The Libyan plane was not shot down per se... it was shot on the ground after it landed. :P

The french have been busy last night bombing the airfield near Hun.


A kill.... it's a kill... (OMG I can already hear the french jokes coming) :shock:

Unread postPosted: 24 Mar 2011, 21:04
by Lieven
Six Dutch F-16s from Leeuwarden AFB landed at Decimomanu in Sardinia at around 18.00h.

A spokesman for the Defence Ministry says they will carry out surveillance, gather intelligence and keep track of air traffic heading towards Libya. "They will not be used to challenge ground targets or targets at sea."

A refueling plane will assist the F-16s.

The F-16s and the minesweeper are being deployed for three months. The refueling plane is only available until 4 April.

The six Dutch jets:
  • [serial]J-008[/serial]
    [*][serial]J-009[/serial]
    [*][serial]J-060[/serial]
    [*][serial]J-362[/serial]
    [*][serial]J-616[/serial]
    [*][serial]J-868[/serial]


See: <a href="http://www.f-16.net/news_article4320.html">Dutch contribute six F-16s and a KDC-10 to Odyssey Dawn</a>

Unread postPosted: 24 Mar 2011, 22:09
by moti
RNLAF F-16s leaving for Decimomanu.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfIbFnxD ... ture=feedu

Unread postPosted: 24 Mar 2011, 22:22
by sundowner11
Seeing all this countries contributing Vipers really drives home how popular the plane is.

Congrats on the French on the kill. it was trainer but he shouldn't have been up there period to tell you the truth.

Unread postPosted: 24 Mar 2011, 23:31
by tieu
The RNoAF is equipped with both the IRIS-T and Sidewinder. Based on the pictures/videoes it looks like one of the jets in the two-ship is equipped with the IRIS while the second is armed with the Sidewinder. Don't know the reason for this, as the IRIS is a much better missile. Snipers are on all the jets, and the red pod is a travel pod, but taken off before combat sorties. For air-to-ground weapons they are using a mixed load of one GBU-38 JDAM and one GBU-12 LGB on each jet, which togheter with the TGP is a nice ag loadout for most applicable scenarios. They are loaded on PIDS and ECIPS on 3 and 7, and the jets are flying with ALQ-131 on station 5.

http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/verden/1.7564378

Unread postPosted: 25 Mar 2011, 11:01
by Asif
WAM - Emirates News Agency wrote:UAE updates support to UN resolution 1973
2011-03-25 01:02:41

Abu Dhabi, 24 March 2011 (WAM) - The UAE Minister of Foreign Affairs, His Highness Sheikh Abdulla bin Zayed Al Nahyan today issued a statement updating the status of the UAE's participation in support of UN resolution 1973.

He stated that: "In support of UN resolution 1973 The UAE is fully engaged with humanitarian operations in Libya. As an extension of those humanitarian operations the UAE Air Force has committed six F-16 and six Mirage aircraft to participate in the patrols that will enforce the No Fly Zone now established over Libya. UAE Participation in the patrols will commence in the coming days." WAM/MAB

source: http://www.wam.ae/servlet/Satellite?c=W ... M_E_Layout

Unread postPosted: 25 Mar 2011, 11:12
by Butcher
I guess time for the Block 60 to show its teeth.

Unread postPosted: 25 Mar 2011, 11:15
by Lieven
Anyone who has any serial number information to add here?

<a href="http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F-16/aircraft-combat-deployments/deployment/Odyssey%20Dawn/">F-16s participating in Odyssey Dawn</a>

BTW, here's an <a href="http://levif.rnews.be/fr/news/actualite/belgique/libye-un-pilote-de-f-16-belge-temoigne/article-1194976768669.htm" ref="nofollow" target="new">interview with a Belgian pilot ('Mickey')</a> about their Belgian mission in Libya, "Freedom Falcon". (Sorry, in French only)

Unread postPosted: 25 Mar 2011, 21:26
by energo
Lieven wrote:Anyone who has any serial number information to add here?

<a href="http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F-16/aircraft-combat-deployments/deployment/Odyssey%20Dawn/">F-16s participating in Odyssey Dawn</a>


Lieven, RNoAF #683 is confirmed. #662 is not correct.

B. Bolsøy
Oslo

Unread postPosted: 25 Mar 2011, 22:53
by moti

Unread postPosted: 25 Mar 2011, 23:21
by energo
Nordic mission update.

Danish F-16s have flown 22 sorties and employed weapons for the third night in a row. As of yesterday Thursday there had been one air-to-air and 17 air-to-ground sorties.

Video of RDAF F-16s at Sigionella on March 24

Today two RNoAF F-16s also dropped their first weapons of the campaign, on the second day of active flying and the second sortie of the day. #668 and #674 returned to Souda Bay air base after completing a four hour mission with respectively one and two empty GBU-12 racks. The targets were armored combat vehicles, possibly tanks.

Video of RNoAF F-16s returning from the Friday sortie
Video of the first RNoAF sortie on Thursday

As of Friday March 25. there are eleven countries actively maintaining the no fly zone over Libya; USA, France, UK, Canada, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, Creece, Italy, Spain and Qatar. Six Dutch F-16s arrived Thursday at Decimomanu in Sardinia and is in flight preparations. Link to news story

B. Bolsøy
Oslo

Unread postPosted: 26 Mar 2011, 00:25
by falnorcon16
- 2 laserguided bombs and one GPS guided bomb were launched from 2 F-16 of the Royal Norwegian airforce on Friday 25.03.2011, against Libyan tanks

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks ... 073163.ece

Unread postPosted: 26 Mar 2011, 03:48
by geogen
Wow, it's confirmed then. 1st IRIS-T deployed on F-16 in combat mission?

Congrats on the photos. These are historical images I think due to quality.

Peace to Libya and her peoples, we must hope for a resolution to the conflicts via mediation and negotiation. Cease fire. Time to rebuild a great nation..

Unread postPosted: 26 Mar 2011, 08:54
by falnorcon16
F-16s from the Royal Norwegian Airforce bombed an airfield in Libya during the night

http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/03/26/nyhe ... /15959765/

Unread postPosted: 26 Mar 2011, 12:30
by Asif
The New York Times wrote:Safely Back, a Pilot Tells of His Raid Over Libya
By ERIC SCHMITT
Published: March 25, 2011

As Capt. Ryan Thulin steered his F-16 fighter jet over the central Libyan coast early last Sunday, he peered into the inky darkness to hunt his target: Libyan tanks, artillery and other fielded forces.

Suddenly, red tracers of antiaircraft fire streaked up from the desert below. Captain Thulin, a 28-year-old Air Force Academy graduate on his first combat mission, instinctively veered his single-seat jet away from the ground fire and dropped 500-pound, precision-guided bombs on the Libyan forces. A huge fireball lit up the cloudless sky.

Several minutes later, the scene replayed itself, only this time Captain Thulin bombed army targets much closer to the outskirts of a city in eastern Libya where government troops, rebel fighters and civilians were in dangerous proximity. In the air campaign against Libya, allied warplanes have not attacked targets in cities and are under strict instructions to avoid hitting civilians.

“It’s always something we’re considering on every attack,” said Captain Thulin, a pilot in the 555th Fighter Squadron based at Aviano Air Base in Italy. “You have to be confident that all the rules of engagement are met so when you do drop that weapon, in your heart of hearts, you know you’re doing the right thing.”

Given in a telephone interview from Aviano, Captain Thulin’s account of his mission on the second day of the weeklong allied air operation offered a window into the world of pilots from the United States and other allies who through Friday had flown more than 450 combat flights.

Under the ground rules set by the military, Captain Thulin would not describe some details of his eight-hour mission, including the specific locations and details of targets that he and a companion F-16 attacked, as well as many tactics he used.

But the captain provided fresh details about the planning for combat missions and the complex midair choreography with dozens of refueling planes, reconnaissance aircraft and other fighter jets that pass along tips to inbound fighters about ground fire threats and potential targets as they complete their missions and head for home in bases in Europe or on ships in the Mediterranean.

The preparation for Captain Thulin’s mission on Sunday began days earlier, as it became clear the United States might join a coalition to prevent Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s military from attacking Libyan civilians.

Captain Thulin and his squadron mates studied photographs of possible targets — from several types of tanks to artillery pieces — and how they would look from 20,000 feet using infrared targeting sensors. The pilots also pored over information about Libya’s surface-to-air missiles, including deadly SA-5 mobile launchers.

“We were studying the terrain, what buildings were made of, what it looks like over the desert using night-vision goggles or during the day,” said Captain Thulin, a native of Lake Orion, Mich., who mentioned the differences between Libya and verdant northern Italy, where the squadron normally trains. “We were preparing so when in combat, it’s more of a reflex.”

Late last Saturday night, Captain Thulin got the call he knew would be coming: his mission was scheduled. By 2 a.m. Sunday, his F-16 roared down the runway at Aviano heading for Libya. Twice during the flight to his destination, Captain Thulin refueled in midair with special planes. He was in constant communication with air traffic controllers as well as intelligence analysts updating him on potential targets.

Soon after 4 a.m., Captain Thulin approached his targets. “Your mind is racing,” he recalled. “I don’t want to say I was nervous because I’ve trained for this four years. But I’m going over all my checks: engine is good, oil is good, the system is set up to run the attack.”

After striking his targets, Captain Thulin headed north to Italy, refueling twice on the way. Asked what struck him most about his mission, he said, “Being shot at the first time is a surprise.”

A version of this article appeared in print on March 26, 2011, on page A9 of the New York edition.


Image

source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/26/world ... .html?_r=1

Unread postPosted: 26 Mar 2011, 20:14
by Asif
Some AP photos of the 480th in action: #91-0352[/serial][/b] & [b]#[serial]91-0361

Unread postPosted: 26 Mar 2011, 21:49
by energo
Link to video A RNoAF F-16 drops a GPS guided JDAM on a Libyan aircraft shelter late Friday night. The munition penetrates the roof and detonates inside the shelter. In all eight munitions have been dropped in three days of combat sorties. There are no indications that civilian lives have been lost.

B. Bolsøy
Oslo

Unread postPosted: 26 Mar 2011, 23:08
by energo
Dutch F-16s at Sardinia on March 25 preparing to enforce the no-fly zone over Libya.

Link to video

B. Bolsøy
Oslo

Unread postPosted: 27 Mar 2011, 20:03
by Lasse
Enter Block 60

#UAE F-16s & Mirage2000 at #Deci this afternoon: http://bit.ly/fxzwMs | http://bit.ly/eZ6qHe | http://bit.ly/hWh1eo
https://twitter.com/#!/criceto2/status/ ... 5515953152

'Deci' apparently being Decimomannu Air Base on Sardinia, Italy.

Unread postPosted: 27 Mar 2011, 20:20
by VarkVet
Lasse wrote:Enter Block 60


Sweet :notworthy: and 5 bags full :thumb:

I wish we could have some of those! 8)

Thanks for the help :salute:

Unread postPosted: 27 Mar 2011, 20:38
by falnorcon16
Norwegian F-16s has now performed 15 - 20 sorties and dropped 12 to 15 bombs on targets ranging from tanks, artillerary and other millitary targets.

Unread postPosted: 27 Mar 2011, 20:39
by Bjorn
If anyone has the other 4 serials of the block 60 airframes, please do share them.

<a href="http://www.f-16.net/news_article4321.html">UAE block 60 jets arrive in Italy for Libya operations</a>

Unread postPosted: 27 Mar 2011, 20:40
by Bjorn
The Belgian F-16s performed their first air-to-ground intervention earlier today.

Targets were hit and there appears to be no collateral damage.

Unread postPosted: 27 Mar 2011, 23:14
by Asif
Bjorn wrote:If anyone has the other 4 serials of the block 60 airframes, please do share them.

Add <a href="http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F-16/airframe-profile/4532/">#3049</a> to the mix.

http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F ... ey%20Dawn/

Unread postPosted: 28 Mar 2011, 03:42
by ruderamronbo
Lasse wrote:

UAEAF F-16F block 60 #3004 from 1 sqn is coming in for landing at Decimomannu AB on March 27th, 2011 to take part in Operation Odyssey Dawn over Libya. [Photo by Massimo Pieranunzi]


interesting to see a two seater used for a combat sortie

Unread postPosted: 28 Mar 2011, 17:02
by falcontot
Add number <a href="http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F-16/airframe-profile/4560/">#3077</a> to the mix as the last one's off the block60's.


UAEAF F-16E block 60 #3077 from 1 sqn is coming in for landing at Decimomannu AB on March 27th, 2011 to take part in Operation Odyssey Dawn over Libya. [Photo by Massimo Pieranunzi]


http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F ... ey%20Dawn/

Unread postPosted: 29 Mar 2011, 20:09
by falcontot
Here are the 5 number for UAEAF F-16E block 60 an this are number #3040 from 1 sqn take part in Operation Odyssey Dawn over libya.

Here are a link to picture from AWTI-Decimo of it.

http://www.awti-decimo.com/gallery/disp ... fullsize=1

Unread postPosted: 30 Mar 2011, 03:30
by mjoelner
Apparently one of the RDAF jets taking part in Odyssey Dawn is a former US block 15. It is a block 20 MLU now.


USAF F-16A block 15 #83-1075 from the 170th FS is photographed on the flightline in 1993, just before its transfer to Denmark as #E-075 in 1994. [Photo by MSgt. Dale Jensen]


Wonder why it was ever phased out of US inventory? Certainly these jets can be put to better use than as QF-16 drones?

Unread postPosted: 30 Mar 2011, 17:59
by LinkF16SimDude
Because in 1994, Springfield was converting to the C/D model and Denmark needed one or more replacements (attrition, spares, etc). It was MLU'd after it was transferred.

Unread postPosted: 31 Mar 2011, 23:06
by energo
Video of Belgian F-16 bombing a Libyan fighter bomber and aircraft shelter. The large explosion suggests a fueled aircraft ready to fly.

Video of Dutch F-16s at Sardinia.

B. Bolsøy
Oslo

Unread postPosted: 01 Apr 2011, 02:09
by LinkF16SimDude
Didn't know the Dutch tankers had remote boomers. Neat! 8)

Unread postPosted: 01 Apr 2011, 13:35
by Lasse
According to David Cenciotti Jordan is participating with six F-16s that landed at Aviano yesterday http://cencio4.wordpress.com/2011/04/01 ... ed-day-13/

No other links for this yet though. :s

Unread postPosted: 01 Apr 2011, 13:56
by Bjorn
If anyone has any pictures of the Jordanian F-16s and their serial numbers, please do share them with us.

Greets,

Unread postPosted: 01 Apr 2011, 18:15
by Seadragon
If correctly translated from Arabic they are: 671, 677, 678, 680, 681 683

Unread postPosted: 02 Apr 2011, 14:14
by runi_dk
Update:

The Danish F-16's have so far flown 44 air to ground missions and 1 air to air mission. The total number of weapons delivered are 122.

Norwegian Vipers, too underpowered for heavy loadout?

Unread postPosted: 03 Apr 2011, 20:15
by aceshigh
Hello all, new to the forum! No expert here, just an (Norwegian) enthusiast in his eary forties with a lot of fascination for military aviation. Lots of respect for the aviation competence on this board.

My question is as follows: To my knowledge the Norwegian Vipers are flying with the F100-PW-220/220E. I've noticed that both in Afganistan and now Egypt, they fly with a 2 x 500 pound bomb loadout. With the need for akstra fuel ECM and missiles, is this the biggest bombload it can practically carry? How big is the difference to the GE powered Vipers?

Re: Norwegian Vipers, too underpowered for heavy loadout?

Unread postPosted: 03 Apr 2011, 22:02
by mjoelner
aceshigh wrote:My question is as follows: To my knowledge the Norwegian Vipers are flying with the F100-PW-220/220E. I've noticed that both in Afganistan and now Egypt, they fly with a 2 x 500 pound bomb loadout. With the need for akstra fuel ECM and missiles, is this the biggest bombload it can practically carry? How big is the difference to the GE powered Vipers?


The danish F-16AM's are very similar to the norwegian planes and they carry 2000 lb JDAM's. Even on missions over Libya. There is already at least one picture of that in this forum.
But sometimes they switch to 500 lb LGB's. I guess it's a question of avoiding collateral damage?
So the real question is, why don't they fly with 4 x 500lb like the american jets? Maybe its the distance fra Crete to Libya that dictates a low drag configuration? I don't think a GE engine would help you there. It's actually more thirsty.

Unread postPosted: 04 Apr 2011, 00:03
by bumtish
mission patch rdaf

Unread postPosted: 04 Apr 2011, 09:34
by Asif
bumtish wrote:mission patch rdaf


Do you know where we can get an example of the 'real' patch for the gallery?

Unread postPosted: 04 Apr 2011, 16:43
by runi_dk
I think it's a very well made mission patch, the details with the words forming the falcon are cool.

The first video released by the air force showing Danish F-16's bombing some targets. Rocket launchers and then ammo depots. http://politiken.tv/nyheder/udland/ECE1 ... -i-libyen/

Another picture: Image

Unread postPosted: 04 Apr 2011, 17:03
by Bjorn
From the moment someone has a real patch, please do post it here. We can use it in our combat section of the aircraft database.

Greets,

Unread postPosted: 04 Apr 2011, 17:44
by bumtish
The two pics posted here are the design draft.

(More here in Danish: http://forsvaret.dk/FTK/Nyt%20og%20Pres ... ilien.aspx )

So it has not manifested itself physically yet.

Unread postPosted: 04 Apr 2011, 19:32
by Bjorn
Apparantly 18 gruppo of the AMI is also involved in Operation Odyssey Dawn. If anyone knows the serial numbers of those aircraft, please do share. We know it might be difficult since all remaining F-16 airframes might be put forward for this operation.

Greets,

Unread postPosted: 05 Apr 2011, 00:35
by geogen
I truly wish NATO would make this RDAF patch the official OOD patch for all mission. It is pretty official looking and seems relevant to the mission, imho. No where in the patch should be a US, French, or UK flag... that is not the purpose of the mission. It's about Libyans and their future, so this presented patch by the RDAF is pretty good I think.

Respects for an official, humbled 'NATO' based patch. And respects to the crews involved and to Libyan people for reconciliation and for a just future with good opportunities.

God speed.

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2011, 14:47
by abdo_salah999
Jordan sends jets to support Libya no-fly zone

AMMAN - Jordan has sent fighter aircraft to a European air base to support a no-fly zone over Libya and protect humanitarian flights from the Arab kingdom, Foreign Minister Nasser Judeh was quoted as saying on Wednesday.

The Jordan Times newspaper quoted Judeh as saying that Royal Jordanian Air Force fighter aircraft landed at the base two days ago. He did not say how many fighter jets had been sent.

http://www.jpost.com/International/Arti ... 15373&R=R1

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2011, 15:18
by Asif
The 480 FS are departing from Aviano today. I guess with all the multi-national support now they won't be required over the NFZ.

Unread postPosted: 06 Apr 2011, 15:59
by maurits
6 Jordanian F-16AMs already arrived at Aviano on 31th March:
671 F-16AM 1sqn c/s LION arr 31mar
677 F-16AM 1sqn c/s LION arr 31mar
678 F-16AM 1sqn c/s LION arr 31mar
680 F-16AM 1sqn c/s LION arr 31mar
681 F-16AM 1sqn c/s LION arr 31mar
683 F-16AM 1sqn c/s LION arr 31mar
support:
344 C-130H 3sqn arr 31mar
347 C-130H 3sqn arr 31mar

source: Scramble messageboard.

regards,

Maurits

Unread postPosted: 07 Apr 2011, 19:04
by Bjorn
If someone has pictures of the arriving or operational Jordanian Vipers, please do share those with us. Of those airframes we don't have an image of 671, 677, 678 and 683. So this is a unique opportunity to get some of those. Also airframe 681 could use an extra one.

Greets,

Unread postPosted: 07 Apr 2011, 21:21
by Asif
One change.. NATO assumed command of coalition operations in Libya on March 31, 2011. Transition of responsibility results in a name change from Operation Odyssey Dawn to Operation Unified Protector.

Unread postPosted: 07 Apr 2011, 22:25
by abdo_salah999
This is RJAF f16 "680"
in FAM 2009

Unread postPosted: 08 Apr 2011, 08:38
by maurits
Bjorn wrote:Apparantly 18 gruppo of the AMI is also involved in Operation Odyssey Dawn. If anyone knows the serial numbers of those aircraft, please do share. We know it might be difficult since all remaining F-16 airframes might be put forward for this operation.

Greets,


Hi Bjorn,

The following F-16s from 37Stormo were noted/involved so far:
MM7239 F-16A-ADF 18Gruppo CIO, ops25mar
MM7240 F-16A-ADF 18Gruppo CIO, ops25mar
MM7241 F-16A-ADF 18Gruppo CIO
MM7242 F-16A-ADF 18Gruppo CIO
MM7251 F-16A-ADF 18Gruppo CIO, ops25mar
MM7253 F-16A-ADF 18Gruppo CIO, ops25mar
MM7257 F-16A-ADF 18Gruppo CIO
MM7259 F-16A-ADF 18Gruppo CIO, ops25mar
MM7262 F-16A-ADF 18Gruppo CIO, ops25mar

source:
http://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php? ... 13&start=0

Regards,

Maurits

Unread postPosted: 08 Apr 2011, 08:59
by falcontot
Hi:Bjorn

Here are some more update's.
The last UAE AF F16E is number 3068.

3004 F-16F UAE AF arr 27mar
3040 F-16E UAE AF arr 27mar
3048 F-16E UAE AF arr 27mar
3049 F-16E UAE AF arr 27mar
3068 F-16E UAE AF arr 27mar*
3077 F-16E UAE AF arr 27mar

source:
http://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=72313

Unread postPosted: 08 Apr 2011, 09:31
by Asif
Can we get confirmation that the 6 Turkish F-16s from 162 Filo reported at Sigonella at are part of the NFZ duties?

Arrivals as of April 5, 2011
[serial]89-0035[/serial]
[serial]89-0037[/serial]
[serial]89-0038[/serial]
[serial]89-0040[/serial]
[serial]90-0007[/serial]
[serial]90-0009[/serial]

Plus can anyone confirm if Vipers from Shaw AFB have arrived at Aviano to replace some of the departing 480 FS jets.

Unread postPosted: 08 Apr 2011, 11:52
by Seadragon
Yes 6 x f-16 SW arrived April 6th:
[serial]90-0806[/serial]
[serial]91-0345[/serial]
[serial]91-0359[/serial]
[serial]91-0372[/serial]
[serial]92-3904[/serial]
[serial]92-3910[/serial]

Editors note: All from the 77th FS.

Unread postPosted: 12 Apr 2011, 20:47
by falcontot
Danish f16 update's here from http://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php? ... &start=165

Sigonella
E-011 F-16AM Esk727, noted 6apr
E-074 F-16AM Esk727, noted 6apr

Unread postPosted: 13 Apr 2011, 16:00
by falcontot
http://forsvaret.dk/FTK/Nyt%20og%20Pres ... april.aspx

Here is a link to a picture off danish f16am _E-074 at Sigonella now to.

Unread postPosted: 15 Apr 2011, 16:22
by falnorcon16
The Norwegian F 16's have now flown some 80 + sorties and dropped some 100 + bombs.

http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/04/15/nyhe ... /16203663/

Unread postPosted: 15 Apr 2011, 20:51
by falcontot
http://forsvaret.dk/FTK/Nyt%20og%20Pres ... april.aspx

Here is a great picture off danish F16AM E-074 at Sigonella...

Unread postPosted: 16 Apr 2011, 15:00
by JochemP
Asif wrote:Can we get confirmation that the 6 Turkish F-16s from 162 Filo reported at Sigonella at are part of the NFZ duties?

Arrivals as of April 5, 2011
[serial]89-0035[/serial]
[serial]89-0037[/serial]
[serial]89-0038[/serial]
[serial]89-0040[/serial]
[serial]90-0007[/serial]
[serial]90-0009[/serial]

Plus can anyone confirm if Vipers from Shaw AFB have arrived at Aviano to replace some of the departing 480 FS jets.


Any info on this? Besides that, are there statistics on sorties, ordnance dropped, kills, etc. (I'm a numbers freak, ha!)

Unread postPosted: 21 Apr 2011, 00:49
by energo
RNoAF video update

90 sorties have been completed dropping 140 munitions. Targets include roads, bridges, military installations and tanks. 2-8 missions are being flown per 24 hours.

B. Bolsøy
Oslo

Unread postPosted: 23 Apr 2011, 01:07
by bumtish
RDAF Mission update 22. april


Today two missions have been flown, both to the south of Tripoli, where 16 precision guided bombs where dropped on munitions depots.

(a mission is a flight of 2-4 jets)

In total 115 missions have been flown of which 114 have been air-to-ground and 1 air-to-air. 255 precision guided munitions have been dropped.

Targets have included tanks, armored fighting vehicles, munitions bunkers, supply dumps, SAMs, SCUD launchers, self-propelled artillery/rocket launchers, C2 bunkers and radars.

http://forsvaret.dk/FTK/Nyt%20og%20Pres ... april.aspx

Unread postPosted: 23 Apr 2011, 01:40
by bumtish
@ Energo

From above it seems there is some discreptancy between the RNoAF and RDAF numbers, e.g. RDAF seems to have flown far more sorties in circa the same time period: >230 vs. 90.

Could it be the distances matter more from Crete than from Sigonella?

Unread postPosted: 24 Apr 2011, 12:33
by energo
NATO update from Sigonella: Sigonella Air Operations

.

Unread postPosted: 26 Apr 2011, 17:37
by falnorcon16
"You have to be one unpopular world leader to have the Norwegians attacking you...."

It was Norwegian F16's that bombed Gadaffis headquarter last night, according to US officials. American reporters and commentators are surprised ....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp ... 6#42755086

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/vp/ ... 6#42755086



Norwegian F16's have now dropped over 200 bombs.

Unread postPosted: 26 Apr 2011, 21:35
by Asif
Norwegian jets bombed Gadhafi.

Unread postPosted: 27 Apr 2011, 20:21
by falcontot
Updates on danish F16's at Sigonella :

Now are danish F16AM E-607 also at Sigonella Naval air base an here are is a link to picture off it.

http://forsvaret.dk/FTK/Nyt%20og%20Pres ... nella.aspx

An this 2 are also there now.
Danish f16 update's here from http://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php? ... ;start=165

Sigonella
E-011 F-16AM Esk727, noted 6apr
E-074 F-16AM Esk727, noted 6apr

Unread postPosted: 27 Apr 2011, 21:35
by shrimpman
Hi,
Did you come across any information why the Polish Air Force didn't send over their new Vipers? I would have thought they'de be very eager to test their new birds. Could it be that the planes are still not combat ready?

Unread postPosted: 27 Apr 2011, 21:43
by Boman
May come later - Italy only yesterday approved their own air force's participation, so late arrival is no reason for concern

Unread postPosted: 28 Apr 2011, 12:24
by shrimpman
Maybe. But I am already very disappointed and pretty embarassed as well. We have the most modern F-16 in Europe and instead of being on the forefront of the operation, our airmen have to sit home and watch it on telly. Weeks pass and everything is still bogged down in a beaurocratic quagmire. And I'd dare say it's always been like that: excellent soldiers and terribly incompetent command. And even worse politicians.

Unread postPosted: 28 Apr 2011, 22:26
by Boman
Military leadership is not who you should be disappointed by - this is pure politics, nothing else.

Unread postPosted: 29 Apr 2011, 06:42
by launcherman
I think our current administration wants to let NATO and the EU nations take the lead in this one. Obviously we're there to help. Lybia is a far greater threat to Europe than it is to the US. I think this is a great leap forward for the EU and NATO. We have enough to focus on a few miles east of there, lets finish up there first.

Oh and the US is approx 50% of the NATO AWACS personnel flying out of FOB Trapani.

Unread postPosted: 29 Apr 2011, 12:22
by shrimpman
:)
I was ranting about my Polish countrymen, not the Yanks :)
I know it is all politics, but they are the same all over the globe, and yet other countries were able to send help. That is bad command in my view. I do not mean the command on the operational or tactical level. I mean the high brass, the guys who are supposed make everything run like a clockwork machine, to make quick and accurate decisions, to ensure the planes, weapons and the crews are combat ready, to make sure the forces are ready to be deployed at shortest notice possible and to have the guts to voice their opinions in front of the politicians. The sad reality is that good fellows who try to shake things up end up on early retirement and the ones that are left are mostly brown-nosers and yesmen.
That's a terrible shame. You know yourselves what is the difference for the flyers and the ground crew to have several hours real combat experience or no real combat experience at all.
Anyway, sorry about the off-topic.

Unread postPosted: 13 May 2011, 22:36
by energo
Danish and Norwegian F-16s are getting high remarks for their contribution in the Libyan conflict.

As of May 9:

* RDAF had completed 169 missions and dropped 364 munitions
* RNoAF had completed 315 sorties and dropped 289 munitions
* Overall the NATO-lead coalition had completed 2326 strike sorties, and 5822 sorties overall

B. Bolsøy
Oslo

Unread postPosted: 13 May 2011, 22:55
by Boman
Proud to be Norwegian :)

Unread postPosted: 14 May 2011, 15:36
by JochemP
energo wrote:Danish and Norwegian F-16s are getting high remarks for their contribution in the Libyan conflict.

As of May 9:

* RDAF had completed 169 missions and dropped 364 munitions
* RNoAF had completed 315 sorties and dropped 289 munitions
* Overall the NATO-lead coalition had completed 2326 strike sorties, and 5822 sorties overall

B. Bolsøy
Oslo


Good info, for us numbers freaks... can't wait to see mission markings on a/c.

Unread postPosted: 14 May 2011, 23:53
by Boman
Agree, Jochem - however I suspect that not much will be seen on the RNoAF Vipers. Politics you know ;)

Unread postPosted: 15 May 2011, 04:51
by mjoelner
energo wrote:Danish and Norwegian F-16s are getting high remarks for their contribution in the Libyan conflict.

As of May 9:

* RDAF had completed 169 missions and dropped 364 munitions
* RNoAF had completed 315 sorties and dropped 289 munitions
* Overall the NATO-lead coalition had completed 2326 strike sorties, and 5822 sorties overall

B. Bolsøy
Oslo


For some odd reason RDAF is releasing mission instead of sortie numbers ?
RDAF is usually deploying 4 jets at a time on a single mission, but the operative word is "usually". What we do know however is that the F-16 operators are doing a lot of the bomb sorties. To put it mildly

Some people are claiming that it was RDAF jets that hit Gaddafis compound and killed one of his sons and three of his grandchildren. Apparently one of the bombs didn't detonate. Fotos indicate that it is a BLU-109 penetrator warhead. Only the RDAF have apparently used these in Libiya ?

Unread postPosted: 15 May 2011, 08:33
by Boman
Nope, photos have shown these on RNoAF Vipers as well.

Tail #668 was photographed on March 30th 2011 taking off from Crete carrying 2xGBU-31 with BLU-109 warheads

Source for photos:
http://forsvaret.no/om-forsvaret/forsva ... fault.aspx

Unread postPosted: 15 May 2011, 14:24
by mjoelner
Boman wrote:Nope, photos have shown these on RNoAF Vipers as well.

Tail #668 was photographed on March 30th 2011 taking off from Crete carrying 2xGBU-31 with BLU-109 warheads

Source for photos:
http://forsvaret.no/om-forsvaret/forsva ... fault.aspx


Super! Many thanks for this info Boman 8) This means we can show a united front against those who want to play NATO coutries against each other. It might just end up on the frontpage of tomorrows newspaper in Denmark.

Unread postPosted: 19 May 2011, 21:29
by Lieven
<a href="http://www.f-16.net/news_article4349.html">Belgian F-16s carry out night bombings to over Libya</a> and <a href="http://www.f-16.net/news_article4350.html">Dutch F-16s join raid over Libya but attack no ground targets</a>

Unread postPosted: 20 May 2011, 09:57
by Boman
Boman wrote:Tail #668 was photographed on March 30th 2011 taking off from Crete carrying 2xGBU-31 with BLU-109 warheads


Tail #285 is also photographed carrying this loadout, as seen in the latest edition of the Norwegian military magazine F

Robert Gates praises Denmark and Norway effort in Libya ops

Unread postPosted: 10 Jun 2011, 23:19
by aceshigh
Robert Gates: NATO Risks Being Irrelevant

(CNN) -- Outgoing U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates says NATO has become a "two-tiered" alliance poorly equipped to deal with challenges, and with members either unable or unwilling to carry out agreed missions in Afghanistan and Libya.

In his farewell speech Friday to the NATO Council in Brussels, Gates pulled few punches in listing the shortcomings of the alliance.
In particular, he drew a contrast between those members "willing and able to pay the price and bear the burdens of alliance commitments, and those who enjoy the benefits of NATO membership ... but don't want to share the risks and the costs."

"This is no longer a hypothetical worry," he said. "We are there today, and it is unacceptable."

Gates called for urgent action to "avoid the very real possibility of collective military irrelevance." Ultimately, he said, "nations must be responsible for their fair share of the common defense."

The defense secretary said the problem was in part one of resources.
Pointing to one estimate that European defense spending had declined by nearly 15% in the decade following 9/11, Gates said that only five of the 28 allies now spent the agreed target of 2% of GDP on defense.

Gates said the allied mission in Afghanistan had exposed significant shortcomings of NATO -- in military capabilities and political will.
"Despite more than 2 million troops in uniform -- not counting the U.S. military -- NATO has struggled, at times desperately, to sustain a deployment of 25,000 to 40,000 troops, not just in boots on the ground, but in crucial support assets," he said.

Gates praised governments that had stepped up in Afghanistan.
"Frankly, four years ago I never would have expected the alliance to sustain this operation at this level for this long, much less add significantly more forces in 2010," he said.

That had "decisively changed the momentum on the ground," but NATO must now guard against a "rush to the exits."
"The way ahead in Afghanistan is "in together, out together," Gates said -- with the aim of "inflicting a strategic and ideological defeat on terrorist groups that threaten our homelands."

Gates had harsh words for the conduct of the air campaign against the regime of Moammar Gadhafi in Libya. He said it had become "painfully clear" that shortcomings could "jeopardize the alliance's ability to conduct an integrated, effective and sustained air-sea campaign."
"While every alliance member voted for the Libya mission, less than half have participated at all, and fewer than a third have been willing to participate in the strike mission," he said.

Some did not want to -- others simply were unable to. NATO lacked intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance assets to do the job. Gates gave one critical example: "NATO air operations center in Italy required a major augmentation of targeting specialists, mainly from the U.S., to do the job ... We have the spectacle of an air operations center designed to handle more than 300 sorties a day struggling to launch about 150."
Gates praised some NATO members for punching above their weight in the Libya operation.

"Norway and Denmark have provided 12% of allied strike aircraft yet have struck about one third of the targets," he said. But such examples were the exceptions.
Gates concluded with a candid warning about American willingness to continue bearing a growing part of the NATO burden.

"The blunt reality is that there will be dwindling appetite and patience in the U.S. Congress ... to expend increasingly precious funds on behalf of nations that are apparently unwilling to devote the necessary resources or make the necessary changes to be a serious and capable partners in their own defense," he said.

NATO members must better allocate their resources, follow through on commitments and protect defense budgets from being "further gutted" to avoid "a dismal future," Gates said.

RE: Robert Gates praises Denmark and Norway effort in Libya

Unread postPosted: 11 Jun 2011, 19:20
by flighthawk
Well if that really is the case, then certain NATO members need to either accept their responsibilities - or get kicked out!

Re: RE: Robert Gates praises Denmark and Norway effort in Li

Unread postPosted: 11 Jun 2011, 21:32
by aceshigh
flighthawk wrote:Well if that really is the case, then certain NATO members need to either accept their responsibilities - or get kicked out!


Agree. But i also worry for the future of the alliance, as Mr. Gates. The same thing is happening in Afghanistan. Some NATO members are not pulling their weight. As a Norwegian, (and Scandinavian i might add), i find pride in the fact that Norway and Denmark is stepping up beyond what could be expected given the size of the countries. The transatlantic ties are strong in Norway, as is reflected in the choice of the F-35.

RE: Re: RE: Robert Gates praises Denmark and Norway effort i

Unread postPosted: 11 Jun 2011, 21:40
by discofishing
If the UN went away, would other countries have an easier time supporting NATO?

Unread postPosted: 11 Jun 2011, 21:53
by discofishing
British Army Air Corps AH Mk.1 Apaches are in the fight now. They will be used from a carrier.



So the Brits may have lost their ability to launch fighters from ships with the retirement of the aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal but that hasn’t stopped the Royal Navy from finding a stopgap power projection system until the Queen Elizabeth class supercarriers are commissioned. Apparently, the Royal Navy and British Army have re-qualified the AH-64 Apache (known as the AH1 in the U.K.) to operate from ships.

Three Apaches were originally embarked on Ocean as part of an exercise aimed at giving the fleet some ability to project carrier-launched air power since the Ark Royal’s Harrier jump jets were retired along with the ship. Now, the Ocean is sailing off the coast of Libya with the attack helicopters on-board (pictured above).

These birds are part of the Anglo-French force of attack helos that are may-or-may not be set to strike targets belonging to Moammar Gadhafi’s government in Libya. If the Apaches join the fray, this will mark a new phase of the Libyan conflict, coming on the heels of some of the heaviest NATO air strikes yet against Gadhafi.

From Aviation Week’s Ares blog:

What started out as an exercise is now turning into something more. The British government has apparently decided to deploy the rotorcraft to Libya, to help rebels in the area of Misurata in their fight against Libyan government forces.

The move is a big escalation for the British after weeks in which sustained attacks on Libyan government positions and Col. Gadddafi’s leadership compounds failed to generate any major breakthrough.

Only three Apaches are deployed on HMS Ocean, but the government has apparently authorized at least one more to be dispatched there with two more on standby, reports the Daily Telegraph.

If deployed, the choppers would perform a similar role as the handful of U.S. drones that have been striking Gadhafi’s troops for just over a month now; loitering close to the ground in urban areas where they can easily identify and kill enemy soldiers who are deliberately hiding among civilians.

While strikes by fast jets have eliminated Gadhafi’s fleet of fixed wing aircraft and anti aircraft batteries along with seriously reducing the number of command and control bunkers, ammo dumps, artillery and armored vehicles, the regime is still holding the rebels in check by adopting assymetric tactics to hide its remaining firepower from NATO strike jets and pummel the rebels. The addition of at least three Apaches and an unknown number of French Tiger attack helos embarked on the Mistral class assault ship Tonnerre will no doubt allow NATO put even more pressure on Gadhafi’s forces that try to hide from air strikes.

The Apaches and Tigers carry more weapons (cannons, rockets and Hellfire missiles) than the drones and they put aircrew in the thick of the fight. Yes, this exposes NATO to human losses but it also allows for potentially quicker target identification and decisions on how and when to pull the trigger.

Read more: http://defensetech.org/2011/05/24/brits ... z1P0Dtj8h1
Defense.org



http://defensetech.org/2011/05/24/brits ... off-libya/

RE: Re: RE: Robert Gates praises Denmark and Norway effort i

Unread postPosted: 11 Jun 2011, 21:56
by aceshigh
I can't really see why the U.N should be considered a part of the problem. The Libyan campaign is a NATO operation based on a U.N mandate, as in Afghanistan.

OOD F-16 loadout/1760 weapon limitations

Unread postPosted: 16 Jun 2011, 14:02
by Lajes
One question, if appropriate here. Back in March in Aviano I have seen CCIPed Block 40 and 50 aircraft (AV, SP) with several different loadouts. I got the impression that each wing (side) has a limitation of three weapons requiring 1760 interface, for example 1xGBU-31, 1xAIM-9X, 1xAIM-120B,C.
If double GBU-38 was carried on the middle pylon on smart BRU, an AIM-9M not requiring 1760 replaced AIM-9X on the outside rail.

Some of my images:

http://legiero.blog.hu/2011/03/22/avianoi_odusszeia

http://legiero.blog.hu/2011/04/02/aviano_masodszor

Lajes

RDAF: Libya Mission Update 28th June.

Unread postPosted: 29 Jun 2011, 10:23
by loredk
Mission Update 28th June

Danish F-16 on three missions

28-06-2011 - kl. 15:00
by Inge Borggaard

Danish F-16 fighters has the last day completed three missions in several areas between Zlitan and Brega. The aircrafts was deployed in observation tasks. There were not used precision bombs.

There is now 338 missions completed, of which 336 have been air-to-ground missions, while two have been air-to-air missions. The total number of bombs dropped is still at 552 pieces.

RE: RDAF: Libya Mission Update 28th June.

Unread postPosted: 15 Sep 2011, 23:33
by Asif
First photo of mission markings. Anyone got further photos of 77 FS jets on there return to Shaw AFB, showing the detail markings


Lt. Col. John Vargas, 77th FS commander, talks with a crew chief before exiting F-16C block 50 #91-0345, after returning from a five month deployment in support of Operation Unified Protector on September 12th, 2011. [USAF photo by SrA. Kenny Holston]

RE: RDAF: Libya Mission Update 28th June.

Unread postPosted: 16 Sep 2011, 03:02
by geogen
Pretty mind-blowing markings there, reflecting what they went through during their deployment, thanks for the photo. Respects to 77th FS commander Lt. Col. Vargas and the squadron. On a lesser note, I'm curious which class munition in particular the single 'mission marking' depicts on the upper-right marking?

RE: RDAF: Libya Mission Update 28th June.

Unread postPosted: 16 Sep 2011, 11:15
by yakuza
[L]JDAM rules

Unread postPosted: 16 Sep 2011, 16:31
by outlaw162
Isn't that a potential safety issue, having the external canopy jettison procedures obscured by the mission markings?

(Look at Oshkosh...)

Unread postPosted: 31 Oct 2011, 23:22
by bumtish
Some public numbers on the Royal Danish Air Force effort during Unified Protector, as per 30 Sept / 31 Oct for wrapping up.

923 precision-guided bombs dropped.

3,503 flight hours (30 Sept)

599 missions flown, each mission consisted of 2-4 sorties, or +1,200 sorties. 597 have been strike missions and 2 have been ATA.

330 personnel have participated in shifts of 120.

20 F-16 have been cycled through the pool of 4+2 stationed on NAS Sigonella.

http://politiken.dk/udland/ECE1428513/d ... er-kroner/

http://forsvaret.dk/FTK/Nyt%20og%20Pres ... tober.aspx

Unread postPosted: 01 Nov 2011, 23:10
by europatches
The 6 Dutch F16's will return on wednesday 2/11 back home, the rest of the detachment will return on friday.

Unread postPosted: 25 Nov 2011, 21:55
by Asif
Thanks to Marco Sommacal for a photo update of some of the participating 480 FS jets


USAF F-16C block 50 #90-0813 from the 480th FS is seen returning to Aviano AB after flying a mission for Operation Odyssey Dawn on April 3rd, 2011. [Photo by Marco Sommacal]


USAF F-16C block 50 #90-0818 from the 480th FS is seen returning to Aviano AB after flying a mission for Operation Odyssey Dawn on March 20th, 2011. [Photo by Marco Sommacal]


USAF F-16C block 50 #90-0828 from the 480th FS is seen returning to Aviano AB after flying a mission for Operation Odyssey Dawn on March 20th, 2011. [Photo by Marco Sommacal]


USAF F-16C block 50 #91-0343 from the 480th FS is seen departing from Aviano AB on April 2nd, 2011 during a mission for Operation Odyssey Dawn. [Photo by Marco Sommacal]


USAF F-16C block 50 #91-0352 from the 480th FS is seen returning to Aviano AB after flying a mission for Operation Odyssey Dawn on March 31st, 2011. [Photo by Marco Sommacal]


USAF F-16C block 50 #91-0358 from the 480th FS is seen returning to Aviano AB after flying a mission for Operation Odyssey Dawn on March 31st, 2011. [Photo by Marco Sommacal]


USAF F-16C block 50 #91-0360 from the 480th FS is seen returning to Aviano AB after flying a mission for Operation Odyssey Dawn on March 20th, 2011. [Photo by Marco Sommacal]


USAF F-16C block 50 #91-0402 from the 480th FS is seen returning to Aviano AB after flying a mission for Operation Odyssey Dawn on March 31st, 2011. [Photo by Marco Sommacal]

Unread postPosted: 25 Nov 2011, 21:57
by Asif

USAF F-16C block 50 #91-0403 from the 480th FS is seen departing from Aviano AB on April 2nd, 2011 during a mission for Operation Odyssey Dawn. [Photo by Marco Sommacal]


USAF F-16C block 50 #91-0407 from the 480th FS is seen returning to Aviano AB after flying a mission for Operation Odyssey Dawn on March 20th, 2011. [Photo by Marco Sommacal]


USAF F-16C block 50 #91-0412 from the 480th FS is seen returning to Aviano AB after flying a mission for Operation Odyssey Dawn on April 2nd, 2011. [Photo by Marco Sommacal]


USAF F-16C block 50 #91-0416 from the 480th FS is seen returning to Aviano AB after flying a mission for Operation Odyssey Dawn on March 20th, 2011. [Photo by Marco Sommacal]


USAF F-16C block 50 #92-3918 from the 480th FS is seen returning to Aviano AB after flying a mission for Operation Odyssey Dawn on April 3rd, 2011. [Photo by Marco Sommacal]

Unread postPosted: 26 Nov 2011, 00:47
by Boman
Lovely!

Re: RE: RDAF: Libya Mission Update 28th June.

Unread postPosted: 29 Feb 2012, 16:47
by checksix03
geogen wrote:Pretty mind-blowing markings there, reflecting what they went through during their deployment, thanks for the photo. Respects to 77th FS commander Lt. Col. Vargas and the squadron. On a lesser note, I'm curious which class munition in particular the single 'mission marking' depicts on the upper-right marking?


The single bomb in the top right is a GBU-12. The rest are GBU-38s and GBU-31s.

Re: RE: RDAF: Libya Mission Update 28th June.

Unread postPosted: 15 Oct 2017, 23:49
by AfterburnerDecalsScott
checksix03 wrote:
geogen wrote:Pretty mind-blowing markings there, reflecting what they went through during their deployment, thanks for the photo. Respects to 77th FS commander Lt. Col. Vargas and the squadron. On a lesser note, I'm curious which class munition in particular the single 'mission marking' depicts on the upper-right marking?


The single bomb in the top right is a GBU-12. The rest are GBU-38s and GBU-31s.


No HARM shots by Shaw for that deployment then?