Philippine Air Force F-16V?

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Unread post26 Nov 2019, 14:14

The Philippines is under going a military modernization program since 2012 to counter China's aggressive behavior in the region. The program is divided into 3 stages or what they call "Horizons" with each Horizon acquiring more sophisticated equipment than the last.

Horizon 1 saw them acquire their first 4th gen fighter the F/A-50
Horizon 2's goal is to supplement their fighter force with a more robust and capable air asset.

The possible contenders were:
-Gripen C/D
-F-16V
-Su-30MK
-EF Typhoon

Later the Gripen C and F-16V were shortlisted as the finalist for the program. Naturally the Viper had the edge in sheer capability and performance while the Gripen had the advantage in cost and delivery time with SAAB promising deliveries within 18 months as opposed to Lockheed's 4 years.

But it looks like the F-16V finally won with military insiders giving hints that a winning contender has been chosen and while they did not directly say that it was the F-16V, most of them changed their social media page's background into the Viper at roughly the same time, so read into that as you will

a formal announcement may be made soon,
More on the jump:
https://pitzdefanalysis.blogspot.com/20 ... oject.html
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Unread post26 Nov 2019, 19:17

What number of airframes they think of buying?
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Unread post26 Nov 2019, 22:01

Interesting, The PAF has been interested in the F-16 earlier, but never had the funding for it?
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Unread post27 Nov 2019, 03:28

The Filipinos bought 12 FA-50s for $420m. They were offered EDA similar to Indonesia who got 28 airframes for $22m and spent $750m to refurbish 24 which would be a total $386m for 12. Maybe they just wanted new aircraft (which would last longer) but couldn't afford new F-16s then, as low cost as it may seem to be.

The article now suggest $1.2 billion for 12 new build F-16s.
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Unread post27 Nov 2019, 07:32

Yeah it looks like they're looking for 12 Viper block 70 or 72 variants.
By the way does the V variant still follow the same block coding scheme with 0 having GE motors and 2 having Pratt?

Anyway, there were talks that they may get more than 12 because the US seems to be offering some older Block 30 models under the Excess defense articles (EDA). So they may end up with more. Theres also talk that the AH-1Z may be included in the deal since the PH also has an Attack helicopter project under Horizon 2.

Initially, it was Turkey's T-129 that won, but with Turkey - US relations in an all time low, PH officials fear that critical US components in that helicopter may not be delivered so they are reevaluating the project.

Technically, the AH-1Z was confirmed to be the most capable but the T-129 was more financially feasible. But with the whole Turkey issue, the AH-1Z, F-16V and retired F-16C block 30 may all be part of a multi billion dollar mega deal.
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Unread post27 Nov 2019, 23:31

zero-one wrote:By the way does the V variant still follow the same block coding scheme with 0 having GE motors and 2 having Pratt?



Currently still looks to be the case yes.
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Unread post28 Nov 2019, 00:44

The PH Government anticipated the delivery of 2 AH-1S in 2020, donated by Jordan.
https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1079367

Looks like it came early. Arrived November 26.
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1195323/j ... -now-in-ph
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Unread post01 Dec 2019, 09:15

Glad to see the PAF finally getting it's legs underneath it.

They used to be one of the strongest, if not the strongest in South East Asia back in the cold war (someone correct me if I'm wrong on that). They had their own high low mix of F-8s, one of only 3 countries that operated it, supplemented by F-5A/Bs . They operated Hawk SAM batteries in a joint command with the US forces and used to host the 7th fleet.

The end of the cold war saw budget cuts globally and the PAF was one of the hardest hit. The apparent lack of threats even got to the point where the entire fighter force was made up S-211 trainer jets modified to carry dumb bombs and guns.

China changed all that
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Unread post13 Dec 2019, 15:35

Filipino pilots start training in F-16s.
Undeniable proof that they are gearing up to buy the Flanker :wink: :wink:
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