Desired Bachelors Degree for F-16 pilot

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2005, 09:26
by thunderbolt89
I’m a Mechanical Engineering major at Auburn University, and I have always been told that Aeronautical Engineering is the desirable degree for Flying in the Air Force. The only problem is, Aeronautical Engineering is not the best degree for finding jobs outside of the military. Work is only available for limited time and few slots are usually open. My question is, should I switch my major to Aeronautical Eng. before ROTC or will the Mech. Eng. suit me just fine in the long run, as far as flying goes?

RE: Desired Bachelors Degree for F-16 pilot

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2005, 16:02
by MATMACWC
ehhh, I dunno about that. I was an Electrical Engineer and I have buddies that were History majors.....and we all fly F-16's. I did the ROTC route; the faculty looks and your grades, military aptitude, physical performance before recommending to the Air Force what you should do for a job. Are you already in ROTC or are you planning OTS? On top of everything it sucks to say, but you gotta have a backup plan if the flying thing doens't work out, but I think you already have your answer for that.

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Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2005, 18:53
by thunderbolt89
Ya I have a back up plan. I My dads an Electrical Engineer who would be willing to give me a job with his business, but I would rather not work for my father .... I would start ROTC in the fall, but id have to stay in school another year (planned on going to OTS) which is not all bad so I can spread things out a bit. I’m aware of the competition for the flying positions....I think I’m ok with the school, idk how I couldn’t be. Could you give me some examples of how I would have to physically perform? Also, if you could do it over again would you go the OTS route?

RE: Desired Bachelors Degree for F-16 pilot

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2005, 19:26
by MATMACWC
well, ROTC was a big help. I went to Embry Riddle in Prescott, AZ and learned alot about the AF before I graduated. It'd be tough picking up a pilot slot if you were a junior or senior in college now cause the faculty will not get to know you well enough before they haveta make a call that you would make it through pilot training. I had a few buds do OTS and it worked out for them. Think about the Air Guard too, you'll have a guaranteed airplane before you even start pilot training and know exactly where you are going to live! The AF physical is easy, push ups/sit ups and a timed run. Good luck!

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Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2005, 21:03
by allenperos
Don't be so down on yourself regarding your academic major. It's a good one! What are you worried about? Don't worry about the flying academics, if you fly in the Air Force, huh, they will teach you? Aerospace is sporadic as far as projects go as you have said, lateral moves is what it's all about. The USAF will give you PME in management education, so you can move up and have job security in any program you're in. You're in good shape!

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Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2005, 22:48
by thunderbolt89
Thanks alot for the help guys. I greatly apperciate it.

Unread postPosted: 03 Jul 2005, 23:34
by G-reg
I launched out a new Lt. a few days ago that got a General Studies degree from a state school, so I wouldn't worry about which Engineering degree is most beneficial for you. More important are references, a clean record, your medical, and AFOQT scores. Having a private pilots license and a FAA class 1 medical can help too.

Unread postPosted: 04 Jul 2005, 00:42
by thunderbolt89
One last question regarding the FAA medical examination.

When I was 9, I was diagnosed with obsessive compulsive disorder due to touching/counting/and cleaning things. The doctor put me on medication for a few years that I can’t remember the name of. I have been off medicine now for quite sometime (7/8 years) and have not had any signs of OCD sense I was 13.

Would this affect my results?

Unread postPosted: 08 Jul 2005, 16:50
by Two'sIn
Would this affect my results...hmmmmmm...what "results" are you referring to...urinalysis/blood analysis?

Here's my two cents on this: your bloodwork/urinalysis isn't your enemy here. That little form that asks you virtually every question under the sun regarding your medical/psychological condition/history IS your enemy. I wouldn't swear to it, but I seem to remember a question on there regarding psychological/psychiatric attention.

It wouldn't be a good idea for me to advise you to be dishonest. HOWEVER, comma, I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST you find someone (stomp, stomp, FLIGHT SURGEON) who can tell you whether or not OCD and the associated meds will disqualify you. I understand that you have been off the meds for a number of years...but I'm not a doc, and I'm not sure that the USAF will really care how long you've been off them. It's the fact that you were diagnosed with the condition that might be a door slammer. SO, ask a Flight Surgeon whether the history of this condition is a disqualifying factor. If it is, then it's your call as to whether you check "yes" next to the question that asks you if you've ever been under the care of a psychologist/psychiatrist.

Hope for the best,
Twoop

P.S. I knew a guy (would have been a great USAF asset) who was disqualified from AFROTC for answering truthfully about his history of seizures. I can't remember the question...something about having seizures beyond your 6th or 8th birthday...he had ONE SEIZURE just a few weeks beyond that date, and was honest about it. There's not thing one wrong with integrity...but I still question that call...that might be one of my "bendables"...

Unread postPosted: 08 Jul 2005, 18:11
by 40watts
Thunderbolt,

According to the USAF fighter pilot job description, the following degrees are desirable:
  • Physical Sciences
  • Mathematics
  • Administration
  • Management
Now what is the most desirable out of those is beyond me.

Unread postPosted: 08 Jul 2005, 19:50
by falconloader
A degree in basketweaving will work also. It's much more important getting good AFOQT scores, get your private and keep a clean record.Also good timing is a plus.

Unread postPosted: 09 Jul 2005, 17:01
by whiskeythud
Thank God someone finally said it, AGAIN. Thanks falconloader, you can have any major in the whole world, hell you can be an independent studies major. I am a history major so that tells you it doesn't matter. All that matters is strong grades, a strong commander's ranking, and strong AFOQT, BAT, and any flying hours to tie into your PCSM score.

Unread postPosted: 09 Jan 2006, 04:04
by CrewDawg-Viper
Some pilots I know seemed like they had a degree in Underwater Basket Weaving but I know pilots who have degrees in Phys Ed. Don't worry man

Unread postPosted: 09 Jan 2006, 04:50
by AfterburnerDecalsScott
Look at the T-Birds pilots.....not an aeronautical engineer in the bunch.

1 Poli-Sci and a military history

http://www.nellis.af.mil/thunderbirds/officers2005.htm

Unread postPosted: 22 Jan 2006, 21:16
by CrewDawg-Viper
falconloader wrote:basketweaving


That's a tough course but Underwater Basketweaving is even harder.

Unread postPosted: 23 Jan 2006, 03:35
by TenguNoHi
Well I can relate to you expereince because I was really nervous majoring history untill I talked to people on this forum. The rule of thumb is... DO WHAT YOU LIKE! Your college expereince will be more enjoyable that way; you'll enjoy your classes and excel better than them which gives you a higher GPA; which helps your selection spot. You need to think worse case scenario... If for some reason you cant be an officer in the USAF, what job are you going to enjoy doing the rest of your life in the civilian world? I can almost garuntee you though that if you talked to anyone whose in UPT right now on this forum they will tell you that their instructures havent asked them to know one thing yet that you would only know if you had a particular major in college. The IPs teach you everything you need to know about flying airplanes!!!

-Aaron

Unread postPosted: 25 Jan 2006, 05:56
by WILZ
Be a male nurse...

I would triple major in Aerospace Engineering, Meteorology and Math. In UPT, you will need to know weather, aerodynamics and I think pilots do a lot of math.

I get a kick out of this. I see it often...

I need to know if what im doing is right...

Unread postPosted: 07 Mar 2006, 06:39
by SpiderManZA5106
Hi,

I'm 18 and I'm going to Spartan college of Aeronautics to get my A&P lience to work on jets and my Private Flight lience from there. And I was wonderin if what I'm doing is right. I know I can keep a 3.0 or above gpa in college but this college doesn't teach all the math such as CAL, I think they mainly teach physics and such need for flight.

My main goal is to be a fighter pilot, I don't care which fighter jet I fly, I just want to oppurtunity but I have always wanted the F-16 r F-22 but will be happy with what I get. I have set my whole life on this goal, I never been in trouble with the law, never drinked or smoked anything in my life or done any pills for that matter. I can run a half mile in 2 mins flat. I do 600 pushups a night before I go to bed in set of 100. My whole life I been lookin and thinking into the future.

The college I'm going too is private so it doesn't have AFROTC and im worried if that will weaken my chances of gettin a pilot slot. And I was also wondering if it would be a big help for me to take a year of college some where else dedicated to Math, Science, and English? I have a burning desire to be a fighter pilot and have all my life. Do I need to buy the test books all throughout college and study them?

The college I'm going to is fast pace so it only takes 3 years to get a bachleor's degree because you go everyday m-f even in the summer. But im going to get my flight licence from there also. Is getting an A&P lience going to help me on the test? Is there any advice you can give me to increase my chances on getting in?

RE: I need to know if what im doing is right...

Unread postPosted: 07 Mar 2006, 06:49
by Destro
Is spartan a two year school where you get an associates degree, or are you just going for the A&P?

Unread postPosted: 07 Mar 2006, 16:41
by SpiderManZA5106
You can get your A&P there and associates degree at the same time. You can also get your bachleor's degree but you get it faster because you to to school everyday, m-f even through the summer. So it will take 3yrs to get your bachleor degree from there. Its an aeronautical college so you can get your private or commercial flight lience if you want, it all depends on what you want and you could probably get it there.

And this school I'm going to doesn't have Air Force ROTC or any kind of ROTC for that matter. Is this going to effect me in a great way? Is there a requirment that I need to take ROTC to have a better chance at becoming a fighter pilot. Are there pilots who never took ROTC and went from college into the airforce and got a pilot slot?

Yes, I'm going to get both my A&P and Associate, then my bachleors and private flight lience.

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Unread postPosted: 07 Mar 2006, 17:16
by Destro
No, the ROTC thing won't hurt you, ROTC is not a rquirement to fly fighters. You can use OCS, or AMS instead of ROTC. Officer candidate school (OCS) is usually used if you go into the active duty or reserves and the Academy of Military science (AMS) is where you go if you commission through the Air National Guard (guard). If you are anywhere near an guard unit, I would seriously consider joining that unit even if it is'nt the type of aircraft you wanna fly. The A&P you are working on really won't help too much with getting a pilot slot, but the private license will. There is a joke that "the most dangerous thing in the world is a pilot that works on his own airplane". Its justa joke though :D

Unread postPosted: 10 Oct 2013, 11:34
by kiara_3
I am not sure but may be you can do international MBA from Thunderbird laureate as this will help you to get a good job with your flying degree anywhere in the world. Correct me if I am wrong.