pakistani f-16s vs indian mirage 2000s

lraam · by **lraam** » 09 Feb 2009, 20:05

India is definitely gonna use Su-30mki to carry out anti-radiation missile attacks to destroy Pakistani medium ranged SAM s located within the close proximity of the border in case any hostility starts with Pakistan. I don't think F-16s armed with sidewinder missiles will do much harm to IAF Mirage 2000s and Jaguars armed with Matra Magic 2 missiles carrying out bombing runs escorted by bvr capable Mig 29 Baaz. India will not use Mirage 2000 as air defense fighters because they have lots of Mig 29s and Mig 21 bisons carrying out these roles. Meanwhile the only relatively advanced aircraft that PAF possess that can carry out air defence missions are f-16s. F-17s are just being inducted and they have a long way to go to prove their combat effectiveness. I think Paf F-16s taking on IAF Mig-29 Baaz for air supremacy would be a more likely scenario on the future.

dokhla · by **dokhla** » 24 Nov 2009, 00:03

falcon_sgd wrote:pakistan was always in defensive position.in defensive role u may get the help of many other things and best example is SAMs.vipers of 52 blk may join with SAMs to cope with the attacking SUKHOIS.
these both can be sufficient for the the sukhois ,when india has not a large number of the same

Defensive position??? excuse me...is Pakistan always the one picking a fight till India puts it back it in its place. Block 52 will have a hard enough time facing the mig-21 Bison, lets not even go to the MKI. our bisons, mirages and Jaguar have stealth coatings, they have rcs over 70% lower than other migs, jags and mirages. During cope India USAF f-15 pilots saw that the radar returns of these aircraft were quite different from normal.

sherdils · by **sherdils** » 04 May 2012, 00:09

Pakistan's answer to hindustan's Su-30 Flankers is a simple one ....... J-10B Dragon. The type is nearly completed all it's testing and is suppose to begin full-rate production. The J-10A was pitted against the Su-30MKKs and the fight was more or less a one sided affair, where the J-10As pretty much whooped Flanker's butt. Which is also the reason why China opted to abandon the Flanker procurement and developed it's own J-11B (China-Flanker).

The intended total buy of J-10B, by Pakistan would be at least 150 of the Chinese fighter-jets. Which is a sufficient amount to counter hindustan's 270 Flunkers. Plus Pakistan is also in the process of manufacturing JF-17 Thunders, 250 of them. And to top it all off, Pakistan is increasing it's total fleet of F-16s, from just 31, to now between 70 and 90 fighter-jets.

duplex · by **duplex** » 21 May 2012, 16:31

The upgrade will bring India’s Mirages to the full Mirage 2000v5 Mk 2 standard, including a new RDY-3 radar which has a detection range for fighter sized targets of approx 140km - which greatly outranges the APG-68V(9) of the block 52+ and with greater air-air and air-ground capability, a new night vision compatible all-digital cockpit, and improved electronic warfare systems. . As part of the upgrade, the aircraft will also be equipped with MBDA’s Mica family of medium range missiles. Hell of an upgrade I would say..

Scorpion82 · by **Scorpion82** » 21 May 2012, 19:11

sherdils wrote:Pakistan's answer to hindustan's Su-30 Flankers is a simple one ....... J-10B Dragon. The type is nearly completed all it's testing and is suppose to begin full-rate production. The J-10A was pitted against the Su-30MKKs and the fight was more or less a one sided affair, where the J-10As pretty much whooped Flanker's butt. Which is also the reason why China opted to abandon the Flanker procurement and developed it's own J-11B (China-Flanker).

The intended total buy of J-10B, by Pakistan would be at least 150 of the Chinese fighter-jets. Which is a sufficient amount to counter hindustan's 270 Flunkers. Plus Pakistan is also in the process of manufacturing JF-17 Thunders, 250 of them. And to top it all off, Pakistan is increasing it's total fleet of F-16s, from just 31, to now between 70 and 90 fighter-jets.

You are quite optimistic wrt the numbers alone. Furthermore the Su-30MKK as operated by the PLAAF and the Su-30MKI as operated by the IAF are two entirely different beasts.

icemaverick · by **icemaverick** » 23 May 2012, 15:12

Also I would always take Chinese claims with a grain of salt. They "developed" their own Flanker because the Chinese did what they're known for doing: copying other people's stuff. The J-10 and J-11 are still using Russian engines. As stated by Scorpion, the MKI and the MKK are two substantially different birds.