F-16V vs F-15C (ANG)

Agreed, it will never be a fair fight but how would the F-16 match up against the ... ?
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Unread post06 Aug 2018, 01:49

The USAF hasn't placed an order for New F-15's. Nor, have we seen anything that would make us believe that they plan too!
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Unread post09 Aug 2018, 16:29

Does the USAF have anything like an 80's retro week?

We could buy upgraded F-15's, but why stop there? The Super Phantom sure looked cool, and who doesn't like the Phabulous Phantom? While we're at it, let's order up some shiny new F-16XL's! Can you imagine the range, especially with CFT's?

I'd order more F-18's too, but the Navy is already ahead of me on that one... :mrgreen:
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Unread post10 Aug 2018, 07:10

mixelflick wrote:Does the USAF have anything like an 80's retro week?

We could buy upgraded F-15's, but why stop there? The Super Phantom sure looked cool, and who doesn't like the Phabulous Phantom? While we're at it, let's order up some shiny new F-16XL's! Can you imagine the range, especially with CFT's?

I'd order more F-18's too, but the Navy is already ahead of me on that one... :mrgreen:


Wait a F-16XL with CFT's!! :drool:

Why oh why was it not made! A few squadrons for the USAF, and I suspect a lot of export potential went down the hole! :2c:
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Unread post10 Aug 2018, 13:54

Because then you have an F-16 with an empty weight of 24,000lb and a fueled weight of 39,000lb.
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Unread post15 Aug 2018, 14:25

sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:Because then you have an F-16 with an empty weight of 24,000lb and a fueled weight of 39,000lb.


Correct. And that's why I'd power it with an F-135 engine :). In all candor, I LOVED the look of the F-16XL and believe it could have met the mission requirements set for it. But the AF went with the F-15 and that certainly has worked out well. They probably (rightfully) thought 2 engines would be better for carrying such huge air to ground munitions. Not sure how the 2 compared in range. It would be cool to see an F-16XL with CFT's though..

Speaking of the F-15E.. why doesn't the USAF use these in the air to air role, after it's replaced with the F-35? They're much younger birds than the F-15C community, and they're absolute beasts without the air to ground munitions hanging from its fuselage/wings. Even with 2 CFT's it looked mighty capable at a recent MAKS airshow. Probably the most sprightly air demonstration I've ever seen from an Eagle, and that includes plenty of F-15C demos..

I have mixed feelings about retiring the F-15C. Would love to see it keep flying, but.. its given us over 30 years of service and performed so admirably. I'd rather like to see it go out on top, undefeated in air to air combat at 104-0. Like star athletes who hang around too long after missing a step, it's hard to watch as they struggle to keep up and tarnish their legacy.

I want to remember it when it was still young, and the last word in air superiority platforms... :)
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