Which would you choose: F-15Sg or F-16C/D block 52?

walama · by **walama** » 24 Dec 2008, 18:44

Merry Christmas guys!

The republic of Singapore Airforce currently has F-16C block 52 and D block 52s along with the new F-15 Sg (variant of F-15 E with AESA). Given a choice, which aircraft would be your preferred choice to fly and why?

Cheers!

sprstdlyscottsmn · by **sprstdlyscottsmn** » 24 Dec 2008, 21:51

choice to fly? the F-16, but if I was told I would get one hour in an F-16 and would be executed painfully after I landed I would only ask "how soon can I go up?" However as an instrument of war, I would have to say the F-15Sg is a better choice.

Scorpion1alpha · by **Scorpion1alpha** » 09 Jan 2009, 10:50

That would depend on the mission because like our Air Force, both your Blk 52+ and F-15SG will be complimentary. Also, depending on who you ask, you're going to have guys who have flown your Blk 52+ and will swear by them. Others who will fly your new F-15SG will fall in love with it won't go back to the Vipers.

Personally, if I were in the Singaporean Air Force, I would look forward to the F-15SG because they'll have newer goodies.

Scorpion82 · by **Scorpion82** » 09 Jan 2009, 16:47

Probabley F-15SG in combat due its performance, persistence, avionics and payload.

That_Engine_Guy · by **That_Engine_Guy** » 10 Jan 2009, 00:47

Well I'd go for either; but the F-15SG would need to have PW-229s in it.

If you wanted a more cost efficient fleet, I'd go with the Viper.

Talk to Korea about how (not) well the F110s are working out in their Eagles. They're second batch of of F-15Ks will have PWs. :wink:

Keep 'em flyin' :thumb:

TEG

sprstdlyscottsmn · by **sprstdlyscottsmn** » 10 Jan 2009, 04:13

nice to see an unyeilding defender of the Pratt.

That_Engine_Guy · by **That_Engine_Guy** » 10 Jan 2009, 04:39

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/12/205_23156.html wrote:04-25-2008 19:27
Korea to Buy 21 More F-15Ks From Boeing

By Jung Sung-ki
Staff Reporter

South Korea's arms procurement agency Friday announced a contract to purchase 21 F-15K fighters from The Boeing Company of the United States.

Under the second-phase F-X deal, worth $2.3 billion, the American aircraft giant is to deliver the multi-role fighters to South Korea's Air Force between 2010 and 2012, the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) said.

South Korea had accepted Boeing's offer to provide one more aircraft to help the Korean Air Force replace an F-15K that crashed in 2006 as part of an offset deal, a DAPA spokesman said.

``Once deployed, the aircraft are expected to make up for the diminishing capabilities of the Air Force's aging fighter jets while also reinforcing our strategic deterrence following the transfer of the wartime operational control of South Korean troops,'' the spokesman said.

The F-X project aims to equip the Air Force with 120 advanced fighters by 2020 to replace its aging F-4 aircraft.

In 2002, Boeing's F-15 Eagle was selected for the 40-plane, $4.2 billion first phase of the F-X fighter modernization program.

The F-15K can fly air-to-ground, air-to-air and air-to-sea missions day or night in any weather. It has a 23,000-pound payload and can fly at a maximum speed of Mach 2.3 with a combat radius of 1,800 kilometers.

South Korea plans to open a bid for the next phase F-X projects aimed at purchasing stealth fighters in 2011.

Meanwhile, the DAPA selected Pratt & Whitney (P&W)'s F-100 engines to power the 21 F-15Ks under a $220 million contract, beating out F110 engines made by General Electric (GE), which won the first-phase contract for 88 engines.

P&W will deliver 46 engines to South Korea under a technology cooperation contract with Samsung Techwin, the spokesman said.

It is rare that an air force selects different engines to power one type of fighter.

gallantjung@koreatimes.co.kr

I read into this as "we're not liking the first 88 GE engines in our Eagles" :2c:

TEG

EDIT: add this like for further reading on "GE in Shady Deal With Korean Arms Agency"
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/n ... 13480.html
I guess if you can't sell your motors; you can bribe someone to buy them? :wtf:

ptplauthor · by **ptplauthor** » 11 Jan 2009, 01:38

As for me, it has to be the Viper--its way more maneuverable, but that would only be if I was a passenger--for a self-piloted joyride, I'd pick the Eage, can't fly with my right hand, tried three times on sims, all three ended up in the drink, only once was I able to eject.

Scorpion1alpha · by **Scorpion1alpha** » 18 Jan 2009, 15:25

ptplauthor wrote:As for me, it has to be the Viper--its way more maneuverable,

That would depend on their configuration. A friend told me I'd be surprised with those newer Eagles with the IPE motors from a pure performance standpoint.

ptplauthor · by **ptplauthor** » 18 Jan 2009, 19:08

That would depend on their configuration. A friend told me I'd be surprised with those newer Eagles with the IPE motors from a pure performance standpoint.

The only thing I'd want would be Slammers on 1 & 9 in case anyone tried screwing with me--

I actually had a dream about being a Viper-driver last night, shame it was in a station-wagon with my mother in the back....what a nightmare, and worse, I couldn't eject her without losing my canopy too, next time gotta look at a website with Rhinos instead.