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Re: JASDF F-35A missing

Unread postPosted: 19 Apr 2019, 15:51
by Gamera
https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/world/20190419-OYT1T50313/

2019/04/18, Pentagon says US military will stop their SAR activity, and continue to support Japanese military SAR activity.
US military SAR activity included Aegis warship and maritime patrol aircraft.

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=2019 ... 0-jij-soci

2019/04/18, JASDF announced radio chatter amongst accident pilot, his three wingmen, and ground control were normal, from take off to during training.
En route to training area, they discussed flight course, training contents, and weather condition.

During training, accident pilot instructed his wingmen.
One minute before radar loss, he said "Knock it off", to suspend training, but did not say any reason to suspend training.

JMSDF ship(s) recovered left and right tail fins.

Re: JASDF F-35A missing

Unread postPosted: 19 Apr 2019, 16:40
by sferrin
As soon as the US leaves China will move in.

Re: JASDF F-35A missing

Unread postPosted: 19 Apr 2019, 21:19
by spazsinbad
Thanks 'Gamera' - interesting radio chatter details etc. Please keep us posted on developments.

Re: JASDF F-35A missing

Unread postPosted: 20 Apr 2019, 00:43
by edpop
Japan’s first F-35A stealth fighter reportedly made seven emergency landings in the months prior to crashing in the Pacific Ocean last week. The Japanese Air Force started using its fleet of 13 F35As in January. On April 9, the first plane of Mitsubishi assembly crashed. Of the 13 planes provided by the United States to Japan, five have been forced to make emergency landings in seven incidents. The plane that crashed made two of the emergency landings. Final assembly of four of the error reporting planes, including the fighter that went missing, was carried out in Japan by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd. The other aircraft was built and assembled in the US. The crashed fighter reportedly had issues with its cooling and navigation systems twice. Japan grounded its fleet of 13 F-35As in the wake of the crash.

Re: JASDF F-35A missing

Unread postPosted: 20 Apr 2019, 01:58
by spazsinbad
edpop wrote:Japan’s first F-35A stealth fighter reportedly made seven emergency landings in the months prior to crashing in the Pacific Ocean last week. The Japanese Air Force started using its fleet of 13 F35As in January. On April 9, the first plane of Mitsubishi assembly crashed. Of the 13 planes provided by the United States to Japan, five have been forced to make emergency landings in seven incidents. The plane that crashed made two of the emergency landings. Final assembly of four of the error reporting planes, including the fighter that went missing, was carried out in Japan by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd. The other aircraft was built and assembled in the US. The crashed fighter reportedly had issues with its cooling and navigation systems twice. Japan grounded its fleet of 13 F-35As in the wake of the crash.

'edpop' these 'landings' noted earlier previous page: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=55255&p=417091&hilit=haynes#p417091

Re: JASDF F-35A missing

Unread postPosted: 20 Apr 2019, 12:24
by Gamera
No problemo, dude.

A bit OT: I've always wondered if these F-16.net forums have other members who are Korean language-fluent, and follow ROKAF (at least) KF-16 and F-35 news?

Years ago, I tried to research KF-16 accident details, but even with Google Translate and other on-line tools, I just couldn't dig into Korean blogs and news sites the same way I can with Chinese and Japanese blogs and news sites. 8(
So I gave up following ROKAF accidents/crashes.

Re: JASDF F-35A missing

Unread postPosted: 20 Apr 2019, 22:28
by energo

Re: JASDF F-35A missing

Unread postPosted: 21 Apr 2019, 01:35
by spazsinbad
:devil: I have the BIG FISH: Monty Python - The Fish Slapping Dance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8XeDvKqI4E


Re: JASDF F-35A missing

Unread postPosted: 21 Apr 2019, 05:47
by Gamera
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/byline/obiekt/ ... -00123056/

2019/04/20:
Japanese bloggers and reporters noted, on the deck of the Van Gogh, were containers marked NAVY SUPSALV (Supervisor of Salvage and Diving, USN).

BTW, because she's all red, a few bloggers nicknamed her as "Rewloola".

Re: JASDF F-35A missing

Unread postPosted: 21 Apr 2019, 08:21
by sdkf251
Gamera wrote:https://news.yahoo.co.jp/byline/obiekt/20190420-00123056/

2019/04/20:
Japanese bloggers and reporters noted, on the deck of the Van Gogh, were containers marked NAVY SUPSALV (Supervisor of Salvage and Diving, USN).

BTW, because she's all red, a few bloggers nicknamed her as "Rewloola".


Just like that F-14 in the old days. Always an inspiration to see professionals do the difficult things just like a day at work.

Re: JASDF F-35A missing

Unread postPosted: 23 Apr 2019, 11:38
by Gamera
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=2019 ... 47-jij-pol
https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2019042300379&g=soc

2019/04/19, MOD requested assistance from Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science, and Technology.

2019/04/22, Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science, and Technology agreed to send Kaimei, an undersea wide area research vessel operated by JAMSTEC [Japan Agency for Marine Earth Science and Technology].

https://www.jamstec.go.jp/j/about/equip ... aimei.html

Her undersea drone(s) can descend to depth 3,000 m.

2008 February, after JDS Atago and fishing boat collided, JAMSTEC also sent Kaiyou and Natsushima.

Re: JASDF F-35A missing

Unread postPosted: 28 Apr 2019, 10:20
by spazsinbad
Navy Black Box Detector Joins in Deep Water Hunt for Missing Japanese F-35A
26 Apr 2019 Sam LaGrone

"The U.S. Navy is employing tools it used in the search for the missing Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 to help find a Japanese F-35A that crashed earlier this month, U.S. 7th Fleet announced on Thursday. The service is sending out a Navy salvage team with a commercial deep-sea submersible, unspecified unmanned underwater vehicles and a TPL-25 “black box detector” – a towed sensor that can locate emergency beacons up to 25,000 feet below the ocean’s surface.

The salvage team embarked on commercial diving support construction vessel DSCV Van Gogh on Thursday from Okinawa, Japan. The participation is the latest U.S. assistance to find the Japanese Self Defense fighter that went missing on April 9. The Japan Air Self-Defense Force identified the still-missing pilot of the F-35A as Maj. Akinori Hosomi….

...“The Kaimei [Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology research vessel joins search] is equipped with echo-sounders, magnetometers and an unmanned submarine able to reach depths of 3,000m for seabed surveys,” reported Financial Times on Wednesday. “The crashed F-35 is thought to lie in deep water at 1,500m: well below the operating depth of a normal submarine.”

Some reports say Japan and U.S. officials are concerned that the technology within the F-35A could be seized and reverse-engineered by adversaries. However, U.S. defense officials told USNI News last week there were no indications Chinese or Russians were also searching for the missing F-35A...."

Photo: "The TPL-25 System used for locating emergency relocation pingers on downed Navy and commercial aircraft down to a maximum depth of 20,000 feet anywhere in the world. US Navy Image" https://news.usni.org/wp-content/upload ... 99-001.jpg


Source: https://news.usni.org/2019/04/26/navy-b ... nese-f-35a

Re: JASDF F-35A missing

Unread postPosted: 29 Apr 2019, 11:27
by Gamera
"Ah, I see you have the machine that goes 'ping'."

Re: JASDF F-35A missing

Unread postPosted: 30 Apr 2019, 03:54
by krieger22
Funny time for making that quip, they just found it: https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Intern ... ed-US-says

NEW YORK -- The F-35A stealth fighter that crashed off the coast of Japan has been found, and recovery efforts are underway, a U.S. Air Force commander said Monday.

"The aircraft's been located. ... It's now in the recovery aspect," said Charles Brown, four-star general and commander of the Pacific Air Forces, in a briefing for reporters in New York.

Since the Japanese-built jet disappeared April 9, Japan time, the Japan Air Self-Defense Force and the U.S. military have poured resources into searching for its wreckage, which could expose sensitive American military technology secrets if retrieved by China or Russia.


The F-35, a fifth-generation fighter developed by American defense contractor Lockheed Martin, evades radar and is expected to play a crucial role in the defense strategies of the U.S. and its allies for decades to come. It "can track and destroy adversary cruise missiles today, and, in the future, can be equipped with a new or modified interceptor capable of shooting down adversary ballistic missiles in their boost phase," the U.S. Department of Defense said in its 2019 Missile Defense Review.

The Chinese and the Russians have been eager to acquire information on the tech behind the F-35. Wreckage from the crashed plane could give them access to study the radar-absorbing materials key to the aircraft's stealth features.

The U.S. is working very closely with the Japanese side in support of the recovery of the aircraft, Brown said.

Re: JASDF F-35A missing

Unread postPosted: 30 Apr 2019, 04:11
by popcorn
That's a relief!