Reports of F-35B Crash/Pilot Ejection MCAS Beaufort

cola · by **cola** » 29 Sep 2018, 09:31

knowan wrote:...a plane that has over 300 built and 100,000 total flight hours total...

...in 18 years of development..."Great success!", to praphrase Borat.

botsing · by **botsing** » 29 Sep 2018, 09:58

It's interesting that trolls visit this thread to point out non-vital minor details without the willingness to look at the bigger picture.

They are the incredible callous people who celebrate a crash and possibly minor injuries since it empowers their underbelly feelings.

Now back to the real topic, I found this picture with statistics of other aircraft:

Source: https://breakingdefense.com/2017/09/mar ... mes-navys/

Does anyone else know sources were to get better statistics about Class A mishaps and write-offs per military aircraft over their years of use?

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 29 Sep 2018, 11:28

knowan wrote:
awsome wrote: Ok I'll bite... actually I don't really give a crap either way but I'm just imagining the comments by the F-16.net true believers if this had been the SU 57...

Big difference between a plane that has over 300 built and 100,000 total flight hours total, and a plane with only 10 prototypes built and a tiny fraction of those flight hours.

Facts are in LM F-35 FAST FACTS or:

"...More than 320 F-35s of all types have been delivered, and they are operating at 15 bases worldwide. According to Lockheed Martin, more than 680 pilots and 6,100 maintainers have been trained on the jet, and the fleet has passed 155,000 cumulative flight hours…." http://www.airforcemag.com/Features/Pag ... ot-11.aspx 28 Sep 2018

strykerxo · by **strykerxo** » 29 Sep 2018, 17:32

cola wrote:
knowan wrote:...a plane that has over 300 built and 100,000 total flight hours total...

...in 18 years of development..."Great success!", to praphrase Borat.

Russian attempts at a 5th gen AC

1. MiG-1.44
2. Su-47
3. Su-57

Nearly 30 years of prototypes, testing, development and nothing to show for it, and I won't get into the plethora of other issues associated with these AC.

US 5th generation AC

1. B-2
2. F-22
3. F-35, in 3 major variants
4. 6th gen. ??????

F-22 so superior, multiple countries wanted it and and now are working on F-22 like AC. F-35, exports to many countries, if it was not a superior AC, why would their experts buy it.

marsavian · by **marsavian** » 29 Sep 2018, 18:00

Don't forget to add to your list, 0. F-117, which saw active service in Iraq and Serbia. The Su-57 still hasn't reached this level of stealth decades later ...

knowan · by **knowan** » 29 Sep 2018, 18:52

botsing wrote:Now back to the real topic, I found this picture with statistics of other aircraft:
Accidents-by-Aircraft-Type-Navy-vs-Marine-.png

Source: https://breakingdefense.com/2017/09/mar ... mes-navys/

Does anyone else know sources were to get better statistics about Class A mishaps and write-offs per military aircraft over their years of use?

How many Class A accidents has the F-35 had now? This crash, the F-35C that ingested a refueling probe recently, and the F-35A fire in 2014 would be three by my count.

With the F-35 up to 150,000 flight hours, that is 2.0 Class A accidents per 100,000 flight hours.

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 29 Sep 2018, 19:01

The info about CLASS A accidents has been well known since the F-35B was recently written off by the USMC after it had a weapon bay hydraulic fire inflight. Then two F-35A fires on the ground, the F-35C debris in engine and the F-35B crash. 5

XanderCrews · by **XanderCrews** » 29 Sep 2018, 19:33

cola wrote:
knowan wrote:...a plane that has over 300 built and 100,000 total flight hours total...

...in 18 years of development..."Great success!", to praphrase Borat.

Cola is back!!

XanderCrews · by **XanderCrews** » 29 Sep 2018, 19:42

awsome wrote:
dragracingmaniac wrote:...cue the haters in 3..2..1...

Ok I'll bite... actually I don't really give a crap either way but I'm just imagining the comments by the F-16.net true believers if this had been the SU 57...

Yawn.

All aircraft crash.

Crashes are the least of the Su-57s worries.

Eastern block standards of safety are very different than the west.

once again the F-35 falls short of the Gripen which had 2 crashes by now.

F-35 will continue on just fine.

hope this covers everything

cola wrote:
knowan wrote:...a plane that has over 300 built and 100,000 total flight hours total...

...in 18 years of development..."Great success!", to praphrase Borat.

Cola is back!! Wow I missed the bitter cheap shots. its great to have you.

knowan · by **knowan** » 29 Sep 2018, 22:29

spazsinbad wrote:The info about CLASS A accidents has been well known since the F-35B was recently written off by the USMC after it had a weapon bay hydraulic fire inflight. Then two F-35A fires on the ground, the F-35C debris in engine and the F-35B crash. 5

That makes for 3.33 Class per 100,000 flight hours. Pretty low for such a new aircraft.

sferrin · by **sferrin** » 29 Sep 2018, 23:20

XanderCrews wrote:
cola wrote:
knowan wrote:...a plane that has over 300 built and 100,000 total flight hours total...

...in 18 years of development..."Great success!", to praphrase Borat.

Cola is back!!

Well you had to know this would bring the roaches out from under their rocks. I'm sure SNAFU is somewhere lubing himself up in his gimp suit getting ready to party with Carlo Kopp.

aquietguy · by **aquietguy** » 30 Sep 2018, 00:18

dragracingmaniac wrote:...cue the haters in 3..2..1...

Can't run, can't turn, can't climb, can't land.

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 30 Sep 2018, 01:13

[someone I cannot figure out because 'you can't embed 3 quotes!?]
Well you had to know this would bring the roaches out from under their rocks. I'm sure SNAFU is somewhere lubing himself up in his gimp suit getting ready to party with Carlo Kopp.

Some Body Help SNAFU to lose it:

"...I still have yet to hear what that [sensor fusion] is. If you ask 3 people you'll get three different definitions. What I do know is that one person sitting on his behind going at high subsonic speeds has to process all that info. Will they be able to and will that lead to winning the fight instead of information overload is beyond me but that's what they're hanging their hats on (if you're telling me that its putting everything on one screen instead of three then i'm gonna lose it!)…. 29 Sep 2018 https://www.snafu-solomon.com/2018/09/a ... rated.html

optimist · by **optimist** » 01 Oct 2018, 02:32

XanderCrews wrote:
cola wrote:
knowan wrote:...a plane that has over 300 built and 100,000 total flight hours total...

...in 18 years of development..."Great success!", to praphrase Borat.

Cola is back!!

The other one that has returned to the forums is Bill Sweetman, AKA LowObservable. Has he finished with norton grumman? He went full stealth for a year or so.

SpudmanWP · by **SpudmanWP** » 01 Oct 2018, 16:36

Pilot released from Hospital

The Beaufort Marine Corps Air Station pilot who ejected from an F-35 jet Friday morning before it crashed on Little Barnwell Island has been released from the hospital, according to Lt. Samuel Stephenson of the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing.

...

The pilot, a U.S. Marine, ejected safely, Harrison said, and was evaluated by medical personnel.

No casualties on the ground were reported and the aircraft was not carrying any ordnance, Harrison said.

Stephenson said Saturday morning that flight operations at the air station will continue as normal Saturday and that the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing will also continue to operate as normal until directed otherwise.

More at the jump
https://www.islandpacket.com/news/local ... =mainstage