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Unread post08 Mar 2018, 15:19

spazsinbad wrote:Graphic earlier to be found here from CORRECT source - worth repeatin' - always good to look at posts before posting....

I'm sorry for duplication... :oops: I forgot its TOPICS. I will be careful to see that TOPICS from the next! Thank you :D
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Unread post08 Mar 2018, 15:24

For sure the SubForum TOPIC descriptions are vague, duplicated somewhat and not precise but confusing. However you did get the source of the graphic incorrect. Oh well... :mrgreen: Don't worry - Be happy - I maketh mistakes also. :mrgreen:
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Unread post13 Mar 2018, 15:14

I went looking for parts and found 'em here....
F-35 Parts Shortage Threatens To Hold Up Pilot Training
12 Mar 2018 Lara Seligman

"...The pilots at the U.S. Air Force’s two F-35 training hubs are now feeling the impact of a major problem that is emerging across the enterprise: a severe shortage of spare parts and limited capacity to repair those that are broken, leading to low readiness levels across the fleet. And as the Air Force battles another critical shortage—the pilots themselves—the training bases are arguably facing the most urgent challenge.

At the 33rd Fighter Wing at Eglin AFB, Florida, the Air Force’s other F-35 training unit, maintainers are constantly battling for parts. At Eglin, the backlog is so severe that it is threatening to delay graduating pilots, said Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida during a March 7 hearing of the House Armed Services tactical air and land subcommittee.

“We’ve gotten report after report that the parts are not available to ensure that we’ve got capable aircraft to meet the training syllabus,” Gaetz said. “While we’ve not been late in graduating any pilots yet, I’ve been told that we are rapidly approaching the inability to accomplish the mission.”...

...The JPO hopes to fix the problem by accelerating the stand-up of an organic government depot repair capacity, primarily to fix subsystems like tires, wheels, and avionics, so the supply chain can focus on spare parts and new production parts, Vice Adm. Mat Winter said. This capability will be established in fiscal 2018, he said.

The JPO also spent $1.4 billion in fiscal 2017 to increase spare part purchases, build up repair capacity and improve the speed of repairs, according to spokesman Joe Dellavedova.

“If you can afford to buy something but you have to keep it in the parking lot because you can’t afford to own and operate it, then it doesn’t do you much good,” Winter said."

Source: http://aviationweek.com/defense/f-35-pa ... t-training
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Unread post28 Mar 2018, 06:02

Key Contracts to Enable Production and Sustainment Operations
23 Mar 2018 LM GM NEWBIE Greg ULMER

"The F-35 Joint Program Office awarded Lockheed Martin a $1.4 billion contract last week to fund long lead parts and components for Lot 13 aircraft for U.S., Partner Nation and Foreign Military Sales (FMS) customers, as well as Lot 14 aircraft for International Partners and FMS customers. This contract enables F-35 suppliers to order parts and build subsystems on-time to maximize efficiencies, reduce costs and deliver aircraft to meet warfighter demand.

In a separate announcement, the F-35 Joint Program Office also awarded Lockheed Martin a $482 million contract to fund F-35 Air Vehicle spare parts to support operations and sustainment of the global F-35 fleet. About 280 F-35s are operating worldwide today, and this contract will help ensure spare parts within the supply chain are ordered efficiently and available on demand...."

Source: https://a855196877272cb14560-2a4fa819a6 ... _23_18.pdf (1.1Mb)
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Unread post26 Apr 2018, 23:11

Still No F-35 Deals, But Lockheed, Pentagon Upbeat
26 Apr 2018 Marcus Weisgerber

“There’s still no deal for the 11th batch of F-35 Joint Strike Fighters, but folks at the Pentagon and Lockheed Martin seem more upbeat than they were a few months ago. “We’re talking,” Undersecretary Lord said after her Chamber of Commerce speech on Tuesday.

Recall that F-35 program manager Vice Adm. Mat Winter in February said he was “not as satisfied with the collaboration and that cooperation by Lockheed Martin.” Soon afterward, Lockheed CFO Bruce Tanner shot back that Pentagon negotiators have in recent months become more unpredictable and willing to ignore precedent in contract talks writ large.

On Tuesday, Tanner (during Lockheed’s earnings call) said, “We’ve seen some progress recently in concert with the joint program office, closing on some open items that I think will hopefully foretell some good signs relative to getting the whole program closed in the not too distant future.”

Said Lockheed chief Hewson: “[W]e feel pretty good about getting to closure in the near term.” [did someone die?]

Lockheed and the Pentagon are also arguing over who will pay for fixing production errors on some F-35s. Earlier this month, the military stopped accepting planes from the contractor. Lord: “I know the [F-35 joint program office] is in conversations right now and Adm. Winter felt pretty bullish about it” on Tuesday....

...Hewson called the dispute a “contractual issue” said the delays are not slowing production. “We’re confident we’re going to meet our delivery this year of over 90 aircraft,” she said.

So what does the Pentagon want from Lockheed? “We just need them to manage the program well and take advantage of all the opportunity that’s in front of them,” DepSecDef Shanahan told me on Tuesday’s Defense Writers Group breakfast.

Speaking of Shanahan, here’s a comparison you never would have heard him say publicly when he was working for Boeing.
“When I was on the 787, there were lots of questions about it not being a good program. It’s a great airplane,” he said at the breakfast. “The F-35 is a great airplane. The comments that I make about the F-35 are about program execution. There’s a real difference. The airplane itself is a high-performing, advanced, fifth-generation fighter.””

Source: https://www.defenseone.com/business/201 ... 18/147763/
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Unread post29 Jun 2018, 14:32

Pentagon, Lockheed Martin Close To Securing F-35 Lot 11
28 Jun 2018 Lee Hudson

"The Pentagon and Lockheed Martin are nearing a deal for the 11th lot of F-35s that includes more than 130 jets, multiple congressional aides say....

...The panel [Senate Appropriations Committee?] notes the previously requested independent cost estimate, system engineering plans, test and evaluation master plan and acquisition program baselines have not been provided to Congress.

Further, the report reveals a recent analysis from the Pentagon’s Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation (CAPE) office on economic order quantity cost savings. The JPO estimates it would save roughly $1.2 billion for the U.S. and partner nations in fiscal 2018 and fiscal 2020. The program thinks roughly half of the savings would go toward the U.S. aircraft buy.

But CAPE’s analysis concludes anticipated U.S. savings would be about $300 million, which is about half of the JPO estimate. “While these savings are still significant, as certified by the Under Secretary of Defense (Acquisition and Sustainment), the Committee is dismayed by the inaccuracy of the initial JPO estimates,” the report says."

Source: http://aviationweek.com/defense/pentago ... -35-lot-11
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Unread post15 Jul 2018, 19:39

'krieger22' posted earlier news in this sub section thread: viewtopic.php?f=58&t=13143&p=397954&hilit=Reuters#p397954
Pentagon, Lockheed Reach Handshake Agreement for F-35 Lot 11
15 Jul 2018 Lee Hudson

"The Pentagon and Lockheed Martin have reached a handshake agreement for the 11th lot of F-35s that includes more than 130 jets. “With each production lot, the F-35 Unit Recurring Flyaway (URF) costs continue to come down across the board,” Pentagon acquisition executive Ellen Lord said in a statement to Aviation Week. “We are looking forward to successfully awarding the contract and continuing to provide advanced capability to our warfighter at great value for the taxpayer.”

Congressional sources told Aviation Week the 6% cost reduction for Lot 11 is considered average given the number of aircraft. The sources also said the Pentagon and Lockheed Martin reached a handshake agreement for Lot 11 weeks ago.
The total award value and per variant unit prices for the contract will be released when the contract is finalized, Lockheed Martin said in a statement to Aviation Week.

“The unit price for all three F-35 variants went down significantly in the latest negotiation, demonstrating the program’s continued progress, maturity and cost reduction,” the company said. “This latest agreement, along with the technical stability of the aircraft, puts us on a great path to negotiate Lots 12, 13 and 14 as a Block Buy, which will generate additional savings for our customers.”..."

Source: http://aviationweek.com/farnborough-air ... -35-lot-11
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Unread post15 Jul 2018, 20:43

spazsinbad wrote:'krieger22' posted earlier news in this sub section thread: viewtopic.php?f=58&t=13143&p=397954&hilit=Reuters#p397954
Pentagon, Lockheed Reach Handshake Agreement for F-35 Lot 11
15 Jul 2018 Lee Hudson

"The Pentagon and Lockheed Martin have reached a handshake agreement for the 11th lot of F-35s that includes more than 130 jets. “With each production lot, the F-35 Unit Recurring Flyaway (URF) costs continue to come down across the board,” Pentagon acquisition executive Ellen Lord said in a statement to Aviation Week. “We are looking forward to successfully awarding the contract and continuing to provide advanced capability to our warfighter at great value for the taxpayer.”

Congressional sources told Aviation Week the 6% cost reduction for Lot 11 is considered average given the number of aircraft. The sources also said the Pentagon and Lockheed Martin reached a handshake agreement for Lot 11 weeks ago.
The total award value and per variant unit prices for the contract will be released when the contract is finalized, Lockheed Martin said in a statement to Aviation Week.

“The unit price for all three F-35 variants went down significantly in the latest negotiation, demonstrating the program’s continued progress, maturity and cost reduction,” the company said. “This latest agreement, along with the technical stability of the aircraft, puts us on a great path to negotiate Lots 12, 13 and 14 as a Block Buy, which will generate additional savings for our customers.”..."

Source: http://aviationweek.com/farnborough-air ... -35-lot-11


Lot 10 F-35As cost ~$94 million. A 6% cost reduction in Lot 11 means they should cost ~$88.4 million.
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Unread post16 Jul 2018, 04:58

Pentagon reaches handshake deal with Lockheed on newest batch of F-35s
15 Jul 2018 Valerie Insinna

"LONDON — The Pentagon and Lockheed Martin have reached a handshake deal for the eleventh batch of F-35 joint strike fighters, the Pentagon’s top acquisistion official confirmed July 15. The lot 11 order will be the largest so far for the F-35 program, purchasing 141 jets for U.S. and international customers.

"The JPO and Lockheed Martin have made progress and are in the final stages of negotiation on the Lot 11 production contract,” said Ellen Lord, the Pentagon’s undersecretary for acquisition and sustainment, in a statement....

...Going forward, Lockheed and the Pentagon will negotiate lots 12, 13 and 14 together as part of a block buy that will initially encompass international orders but could also accommodate the U.S. services as early as lot 13.

The Lockheed spokesman stated that the LRIP 11 deal “along with the technical stability of the aircraft, puts us on a great path to negotiate Lots 12, 13 and 14 as a Block Buy, which will generate additional savings for our customers.”"

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Unread post16 Jul 2018, 19:58

Funny how defense-aerospace makes no mention of this deal at all.... :roll:
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Unread post16 Jul 2018, 20:05

wrightwing wrote:Lot 10 F-35As cost ~$94 million. A 6% cost reduction in Lot 11 means they should cost ~$88.4 million.
If they can hold to a 5%/4%/3% reduction in Lots 12/13/14 then Lot 14 should be about $78 mil. :mrgreen:

Even a 5%/3%/1% (or 4%/3%/2%) rate will yield $80.6.
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Unread post17 Jul 2018, 19:50

SpudmanWP wrote:Funny how defense-aerospace makes no mention of this deal at all.... :roll:

They need time to forge the calculations.

https://twitter.com/JoedeBrig/status/10 ... 6425500672

edit: updated today
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... -more.html
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Unread post17 Jul 2018, 21:37

Lockheed and the JPO have invented the Block Buy Contract, which is a multiyear contract under another name.
I guess he missed the time when the USN used it for LCS, Virginia subs, the USAF with KC-46, etc.


He can't even understand the basic concept of procurement as he seems to think that an order is not placed until the final contract is signed. He said that only 49 FMS/Partner F-35s have been "ordered" while the actual number is ~140 + whatever is in Lot 12 (started Long lead this year & still looking for specific numbers).

Too bad I can't reply to his "news" as I would point him to the Congressional report that describes the history and difference between a "Block Buy" and a "Multiyear Procurement" contract.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R41909.pdf
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Unread post18 Jul 2018, 00:24

SpudmanWP wrote:Funny how defense-aerospace makes no mention of this deal at all.... :roll:

Would you if you had vested interest in a competitor?
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Unread post24 Sep 2018, 16:38

F-35 Valerie Insinna Interviews LM Aero EVP Michele Evans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw4RTvJVjqs

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