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Unread post03 May 2017, 22:04

The F-35B that you saw was flying with either has Block 2B or 3i which are both limited to 5.5Gs. The F-35B will open up to 7Gs with Block 3F coming out next year.

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Unread post03 May 2017, 23:07

Norwegian F-35 pilot: ‘We are on track’
by AIRheads/EH 3-27-2017

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AHF: What has been your most memorable F-35 experience so far?

'Dolby' Hanche: "Another more specific highlight would be the first time I fought F-16s. It was impressive to see just how uneven that fight is, in favor of the F-35.”

http://airheadsfly.com/2017/03/27/norway-f-35-pilot-we-are-on-track/


No ideas of the parameters (e.g. altitude) of that fight. But given that many have stated the F-16 Block 50 (commonly referenced in F-35 comparisons) is the equal of the Typhoon up to 10,000 ft or so... Dolby's statement would seem to lend credence to LM test pilot Billy Flynn's statements that the Lightning has better E-M performance than any 4th gen aircraft out there, including the Typhoon. Mr. Flynn should know, me thinks, as he was a former test pilot driver of the Tiffy.
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Unread post04 May 2017, 00:40

firebase99 wrote:Stumbled on this forum a few weeks ago. What a great place, so much stuff going on. In any event, I love fighter jets. Fell in love with the the 4 gens growing up, etc. Recently Ive been really researching about the new stuff. This may sound like fluff, or whatnot, but I can read energy pretty good when it comes to flight. Anyway, was at an airshow in S. Carolina last week and had an F-35B there. Marine Air..VSTOL. It is the heaviest of the variants but it LOOKED like it had a SLIGHTLY bigger turning circle than F16C block 32 (The viper did his 1/4 mile 9g 360 turn) BUT appeared a bit faster, maybe 400KIAS Rate Kills...So if he wasnt sandbagging the F35 that VSTOL is a pretty serious maneuvering machine. F35A can likely do even better.


The 'C' is the heaviest of the variants...

'Radius' also kills.
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Unread post04 May 2017, 20:35

An F-35 pilot explains how the stealth fighter can have a crushing psychological effect on the enemy

"I've seen guys in F-18s turn directly in front of me and show me their tails cause they have no idea I’m there."

"Everything they see becomes the F-35 out there," said Flatley. "Every radar hit, every communication is about the stealth jet. They want to illuminate or eliminate a threat they can’t handle."

"People are so hellbent on shooting down the stealth fighter that they invariably make mistakes that I can exploit."

http://www.businessinsider.com/psycholo ... ter-2017-5
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Unread post05 May 2017, 09:34

Yeah this quote could go in the Lakenheath thread and several other places such as 'weaps&tactics' but hey I'm going here:
F-35A, F-15 Pilots Train Together During Lakenheath Deployment
04 May 2017 U.S. European Command ["we are your overlords" (Led Zepplin - Immigrant Song)]

"...“For me, it’s my first time dogfighting against an F-15,” said Air Force Maj. Luke Harris, a 34th Fighter Squadron F-35A pilot. “Dogfighting is a test of pilot skill, but it’s also constrained by the aircraft’s capabilities, and I’ve been really impressed by the flight control and maneuverability of the F-35.”

However, with the F-35A’s stealth capability, dogfights aren’t likely, Harris said. Stealth, he said, allows pilots to fly undetected to a “visual merge” and engage air targets before enemies have time to react defensively, which is an advantage over the fourth-generation tactics he employed when he flew the F-16."

Source: https://www.f35.com/news/detail/f-35a-f ... deployment
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Unread post09 May 2017, 20:47

quicksilver wrote:
firebase99 wrote:Stumbled on this forum a few weeks ago. What a great place, so much stuff going on. In any event, I love fighter jets. Fell in love with the the 4 gens growing up, etc. Recently Ive been really researching about the new stuff. This may sound like fluff, or whatnot, but I can read energy pretty good when it comes to flight. Anyway, was at an airshow in S. Carolina last week and had an F-35B there. Marine Air..VSTOL. It is the heaviest of the variants but it LOOKED like it had a SLIGHTLY bigger turning circle than F16C block 32 (The viper did his 1/4 mile 9g 360 turn) BUT appeared a bit faster, maybe 400KIAS Rate Kills...So if he wasnt sandbagging the F35 that VSTOL is a pretty serious maneuvering machine. F35A can likely do even better.


The 'C' is the heaviest of the variants...

'Radius' also kills.


Yes, radius too, thats why stated the F35 turn looked slightly bigger (radius). Speed is life they say and rate kills. I didnt know the C was the heaviest. At any rate (get it?), i think it looked great out there.
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Unread post11 Dec 2017, 05:45

Pilots Say F-35 Superior Within Visual Range: Dogfight Criticisms Laid To Rest
by Colin Clark, June 19, 2017

I asked one of the Air Force pilots, Lt. Col. Scott “Cap” Gunn, here whether the F-35 would win when fighting close-up with an enemy fighter. His answer was simple: “Without a doubt.”

Gunn told reporters at a briefing here that he had gone up against a friend in an F-16 a few months ago. Though the F-35 “performed very well,” he made clear that it hadn’t been dominant. They flew again recently and the F-16 pilot was amazed by the improvement in the F-35’s performance. “What have they done to your jet?” the pilot said, according to Gunn. “The difference is we have learned how to fly the jet… and better understand where its advantages are.”

Gunn went on to say that he “either never got it within visual range, or, if I’m going to be inside visual range, then it’s because I’m going to choose to be there.” That seems to make clear the aircraft’s vaunted fusion engine and advanced sensors — all tied into the pilot’s helmet — provides the pilot with enough warning and data to allow him to decide the terms of combat.

https://breakingdefense.com/2017/06/pilots-say-f-35-superior-within-visual-range-dogfight-criticisms-laid-to-rest/


If you can control or dictate the terms of the fight... haven't you already won? Sun Tzu or something like that?
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Unread post11 Dec 2017, 08:53

"In the F-35 I can generate a wormhole in the airspace and lead everyone through it. There isn’t another platform around that can do that."

- UK Tornado Pilot
"When a fifth-generation fighter meets a fourth-generation fighter—the [latter] dies,”
CSAF Gen. Mark Welsh
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Unread post11 Dec 2017, 09:23

“You start with 10 times more power, and if you are much closer and you are alternating signals between four airplanes with a stealth data link between them, you can do that jamming in a coherent, cooperative manner. The signal, the technique, everything is done for [the pilot].”

- LM Vice President Stephen O'Bryan comparing the F-35 to the EA-6B in jamming role
"When a fifth-generation fighter meets a fourth-generation fighter—the [latter] dies,”
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Unread post11 Dec 2017, 11:10

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Unread post11 Dec 2017, 12:40

kimjongnumbaun wrote:An F-35 pilot explains how the stealth fighter can have a crushing psychological effect on the enemy

"I've seen guys in F-18s turn directly in front of me and show me their tails cause they have no idea I’m there."

"Everything they see becomes the F-35 out there," said Flatley. "Every radar hit, every communication is about the stealth jet. They want to illuminate or eliminate a threat they can’t handle."

"People are so hellbent on shooting down the stealth fighter that they invariably make mistakes that I can exploit."

http://www.businessinsider.com/psycholo ... ter-2017-5


It must be really scary fighting against F-35 or F-22, be it inside a fighter plane or SAM system. The psychological effect will be there even if there is not a single F-35 or F-22 in the air, because the enemy will not know for sure. That will be very exhausting mentally.
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Unread post11 Dec 2017, 14:21

"The F-35 is the best air-to-air airplane in the world, except for the F-22," he said. "The F-22 is the best air-to-ground aircraft in the world except for the F-35."

-- Air Combat Command Gen. "Hawk" Carlisle

https://www.military.com/daily-news/201 ... neral.html

https://www.investors.com/news/reports- ... ted-today/

Take an F-16, stir in A-7, dollop of F-117, gob of F-22, dash of F/A-18, sprinkle with AV-8B, stir well + bake. Whaddya get? F-35.
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Unread post11 Dec 2017, 14:34

As I Googled for several quotes that I recalled, I have come across other great quotes and articles. Major Morten «Dolby» Hanche has several quotes. His blog and a related article are pure gold and worth a re-read, IMO.

The F-35 in a dogfight – what have I learned so far?
Major Morten "Dolby" Hanche 1 Mar 2016

Since I first wrote this post, I have flown additional sorties where I tried an even more aggressive approach to the control position – more aggressive than I thought possible. It worked just fine. The F-35 sticks on like glue, and it is very difficult for the defender to escape.


http://nettsteder.regjeringen.no/kampfl ... ed-so-far/

--also--
https://theaviationist.com/2016/03/01/h ... d-account/

Take an F-16, stir in A-7, dollop of F-117, gob of F-22, dash of F/A-18, sprinkle with AV-8B, stir well + bake. Whaddya get? F-35.
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Unread post11 Dec 2017, 14:39

spazsinbad wrote:



Wtf is that ? :D
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Unread post11 Dec 2017, 14:39

"It forces the Russians to take a look at what we are doing and to realize that if they had to embrace us they might be in a position where they had to jump into a boxing ring and fight an invisible Muhammad Ali."

-- Gen. Tod Wolters, commander of US Air Forces in Europe

Amanda Macias, Sep. 20, 2016
http://www.businessinsider.com/wolters- ... ali-2016-9
Take an F-16, stir in A-7, dollop of F-117, gob of F-22, dash of F/A-18, sprinkle with AV-8B, stir well + bake. Whaddya get? F-35.
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