F-35 and Airshows

vilters · by **vilters** » 16 Nov 2019, 12:07

Airshows are for the public's amusement but tell nothing about an aircrafts combat performance.

mixelflick · by **mixelflick** » 16 Nov 2019, 14:36

lbk000 wrote:
mixelflick wrote:GW1 saw USAF Eagles turning tight with Mig-25's

What's this account?

Starts here, at about the 13 minute mark..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMPJD0dlCT8

Vivid description of an F-15 turning inside of a Mig-25. Pilot remarks Mig-25 has turn radius the size of Texas, whereas he easily out turned the Mig, quickly gaining a firing solution and downs it..

steve2267 · by **steve2267** » 16 Nov 2019, 17:52

Wow. Out-turning a Mig25. Impressive. Heck, I bet a flying manhole cover could do it. Maybe even an F-4. :drool:

gta4 · by **gta4** » 17 Nov 2019, 04:34

Well I think we have talked about the STR of F-35A before:
viewtopic.php?f=55&t=52918

It is on par with the top Gen. 4 turners.

gta4 · by **gta4** » 17 Nov 2019, 04:37

Since you have the the edge in turning in the vertical plane (loop), why do you constrain your fight in the horizontal plane?

F-35A can make very tight loop/flip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S85cyE-BIJQ

citanon · by **citanon** » 17 Nov 2019, 18:58

The usual F-35 demo from an unusual overhead perspective:

madrat · by **madrat** » 17 Nov 2019, 20:19

Wow!!

spazsinbad · by **spazsinbad** » 17 Nov 2019, 20:44

Yeah wow. Because of the advertisement before the video some would be viewers will get nothing but this message:
"An error occurred. Please try again later. (Playback ID: us2PXdpSfumwBXIJ) Learn More"

Best to put the title & video URL as well as putting video in the [youtube]brackets. LIKE THIS EXAMPLE (same as above).

F-35 Demo Team , Over Looking From the Sunrisemountain Aviation Nation 2019 Nellis AFB Air Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXfFvNAS0yQ

mixelflick · by **mixelflick** » 18 Nov 2019, 12:08

steve2267 wrote:Wow. Out-turning a Mig25. Impressive. Heck, I bet a flying manhole cover could do it. Maybe even an F-4.

Nobody claimed it was impressive, only that said turning fights still occured in the age of BVR. Not surprisingly then, you missed the point.

playloud · by **playloud** » 18 Nov 2019, 22:58

Same video, but with audio from my phone (so you can hear the announcer)...

https://youtu.be/sUXeyR_1Pb4

gta4 · by **gta4** » 19 Nov 2019, 02:29

For those who love dojo drift

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=24622&start=1650

charlielima223 · by **charlielima223** » 19 Nov 2019, 03:14

His last drift for the season.

https://theaviationist.com/2019/11/18/c ... at-nellis/

gta4 · by **gta4** » 20 Nov 2019, 02:53

There was a classical turning fight between F-15 and Mig-29 during gulf war.

If my memory serves the F-15 was in an advantageous position all the time. It gained a lock on the Fulcrum and fired a aim-9, which missed the Mig. Finally the Mig hit the ground due to losing too much altitude.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesar_Rodriguez_(pilot)

steve2267 · by **steve2267** » 20 Nov 2019, 14:18

gta4 wrote:There was a classical turning fight between F-15 and Mig-29 during gulf war.

If my memory serves the F-15 was in an advantageous position all the time. It gained a lock on the Fulcrum and fired a aim-9, which missed the Mig. Finally the Mig hit the ground due to losing too much altitude.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesar_Rodriguez_(pilot)

That's a better "data point" than citing a "turning" contest with a truck.

gta4 · by **gta4** » 21 Nov 2019, 10:24

more details about the F-15 vs Mig-29 dogfight
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_engag ... e_Gulf_War