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Re: F-35 and Airshows

Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2019, 11:30
by doge
It's the "C" model flying Lemoore AirShow 2019! 8)
From @0:40~, Look at the F-35C's High-Rate-Climb...!!! :doh: wow
It has about 16 tons of Empty Weight and 9 tons of Fuel...it's the Hyper Heavy Monster...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :drool:

Re: F-35 and Airshows

Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2019, 12:45
by mixelflick
Love the big wing. Perhaps I missed this, but would love it even more if they pulled a Dojo drift maneuver!!1

Re: F-35 and Airshows

Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2019, 14:24
by doge
mixelflick wrote:Love the big wing. Perhaps I missed this, but would love it even more if they pulled a Dojo drift maneuver!!1

C's DOJO drift...! I want to see it too. 8) Big wings, nice looking. (So Cool)
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Apparently, it seems the F-35C flew in formation with Super Hornet at Lemoore AirShow 2019. 8) (wow) I wanted to see the video...! :drool: (I searched but there was no video.)

Re: F-35 and Airshows

Unread postPosted: 23 Sep 2019, 21:35
by juretrn
Airpower 2019; Zeltweg, Austria:
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An ItAF F-35

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Close-up of DAS apertures

Re: F-35 and Airshows

Unread postPosted: 24 Sep 2019, 03:24
by doge
I found a video of F-35C flying with Super Hornet at Lemoore AirShow 2019! :applause: Can see it from @5:30~.
@0:10~ is a high-rate climb that makes me excited. :drool:

Another video.
High-rate climb is from @13:53~. 8)
Surprisingly, the F-35C had a second high-rate climb! :doh: From @21:35~

This high rate climb despite being heavy weight...! :doh: So...Powerful! It's crazy! MEGA Heavy Monster!! :drool:

Re: F-35 and Airshows

Unread postPosted: 24 Sep 2019, 12:01
by mixelflick
F-35C is quite striking, especially in formation with those SH's. It looks entirely different, not just its dimensions but smooth, contoured surfaces and finish. As far as its flying display, it was much more sprightly and agile vs. what I was expecting.

This thing will be punching way above its weight, comparable to the bigger, twin engine air superiority fighters such as the F-15, SU-35 etc.. The big wing, 19,000lbs of gas, monster thrust etc. put it closer to the F-22 in appearance and performance. And this is without the soon to be, even more powerful motors that are on the way.

I hope to see it at an airshow soon. The Navy should stand up a demo squadron as the USAF did, if nothing else to continue reversing public opinion as to its capabilities..

Re: F-35 and Airshows

Unread postPosted: 25 Sep 2019, 00:35
by jetblast16


Very impressive. The F-35A is the total package.

Re: F-35 and Airshows

Unread postPosted: 25 Sep 2019, 04:42
by Corsair1963
mixelflick wrote:F-35C is quite striking, especially in formation with those SH's. It looks entirely different, not just its dimensions but smooth, contoured surfaces and finish. As far as its flying display, it was much more sprightly and agile vs. what I was expecting.

This thing will be punching way above its weight, comparable to the bigger, twin engine air superiority fighters such as the F-15, SU-35 etc.. The big wing, 19,000lbs of gas, monster thrust etc. put it closer to the F-22 in appearance and performance. And this is without the soon to be, even more powerful motors that are on the way.

I hope to see it at an airshow soon. The Navy should stand up a demo squadron as the USAF did, if nothing else to continue reversing public opinion as to its capabilities..



Totally agree....time for the navy to take center stage! 8)

Re: F-35 and Airshows

Unread postPosted: 25 Sep 2019, 12:59
by mixelflick
jetblast16 wrote:

Very impressive. The F-35A is the total package.


What is the maneuver at 8:38? Is that the Dojo Drift??

Whatever it is, it's VERY impressive. The ITR seems to be out of this world. Why is it though, the STR doesn't follow? It's the one metric I think F-15/16C drivers commented it was sub-par in.

But hey, when everything else is so far and away more advanced its hard to find fault. Especially its legs. 18,000lbs vs. 13,500 or so for the Eagle, and just 7.000lbs for the Viper. I'm sure that's going to go a long way toward not stressing out about going bingo fuel on many a mission. Excited to see if LM can develop those CFT's, with (hopefully) negligible effect on its performance..

Re: F-35 and Airshows

Unread postPosted: 25 Sep 2019, 14:11
by spazsinbad


Re: F-35 and Airshows

Unread postPosted: 25 Sep 2019, 14:48
by quicksilver
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Re: F-35 and Airshows

Unread postPosted: 25 Sep 2019, 19:40
by wrightwing
mixelflick wrote:



What is the maneuver at 8:38? Is that the Dojo Drift??

Whatever it is, it's VERY impressive. The ITR seems to be out of this world. Why is it though, the STR doesn't follow? It's the one metric I think F-15/16C drivers commented it was sub-par in.


I'm not sure sub-par is the right term. F-35s have been demoing pretty impressive minimum radius turns, too. What's more impressive though, are the quick turns followed by steep climbs, or showing how quickly airspeed is regained.

Re: F-35 and Airshows

Unread postPosted: 25 Sep 2019, 19:59
by jetblast16
The Navy should stand up a demo squadron as the USAF did, if nothing else to continue reversing public opinion as to its capabilities..


I think the Navy is waiting for the OPEVAL to complete and/ or to get more air frames, before they stand-up an official display team. I also think the USAF will eventually, after getting sufficient air frames, stand-up an East Coast Demo Team for the F-35, along with a West Coast one (at Hill). Could be wrong:/

Re: F-35 and Airshows

Unread postPosted: 25 Sep 2019, 20:02
by jetblast16
In my mind, two of the most impressive things (kinematically) with the F-35, is its ability to regain energy quickly and its sustained vertical climbing ability.

Re: F-35 and Airshows

Unread postPosted: 26 Sep 2019, 14:11
by mixelflick
jetblast16 wrote:In my mind, two of the most impressive things (kinematically) with the F-35, is its ability to regain energy quickly and its sustained vertical climbing ability.


Both are impressive, but I think the ability to re-gain energy is the more impressive of the 2. In particular, comparing the high AOA stuff with a Super Hornet display is telling. Both seem to be able to yank the nose around at will, but the F-35 re-gains energy frighteningly fast. Maybe that's not a good comparison, as I've heard it said nothing gets slower faster than a Hornet, but nothing gets faster slower than a Hornet too, LOL.

I recall LM saying something to the effect that it's 2nd only to the Raptor in such conditions. Not sure how much of that is marketing, but it'll certainly be competitive.