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Unread post10 Jul 2017, 15:53

Uploaded to YouTube for ease of use & compatibility



Here are some animated gifs shamelessly swiped from:

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/12 ... st-dangers

Nighttime landing as seen from the pilot's HMDS. IIR feed is from the HMDS's own helmet cam and not EODAS. The "square" display that appears when the pilot looks forward is the other "in-cockpit" IIR camera (FCAM) located on the "dashboard" forward of the main display panel.

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Same approach but without the CAM.

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Daytime aerial refuel seen from the HMDS cam.

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Unread post10 Jul 2017, 16:21

I searched a bit for a "Flight Test" thread, but came up empty.

I suggest we move the disucssion for the inevitable flight test discussion to either a new "Flight Test" thread, or to a more apropos thread, lest this Airshow thread go on for a few pages on a topic that is NOT-airshow related.

A terrific video BTW.
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Unread post10 Jul 2017, 16:29

I guess it is too late to change however there is 'test' in this F-35 forum subsection as indicated:

"F-35 milestones viewforum.php?f=57
Production milestones, roll-outs, test flights, service introduction and other milestones."
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Unread post10 Jul 2017, 16:35

Spaz, I saw that -- but it seemed to me that it was more milestone oriented rather than discussion-of-test-results oriented. As I am newer around here, I thought I better ask / suggest rather then choose. FWIW.
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Unread post10 Jul 2017, 16:37

'StevieWonder' I do not think anyone takes any notice of anything in this forum, so have at it, your post will be duplicated.
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Unread post10 Jul 2017, 20:13

spazsinbad wrote:'StevieWonder' I do not think anyone takes any notice of anything in this forum, so have at it, your post will be duplicated.


:doh: :bang:

I don't have a lot to add at this point. I just thought flight test, esp. discussion / forums (e.g. presentations) / videos etc warranted their own thread.

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Unread post10 Jul 2017, 22:41

Yeah but... what's in a name? MILESTONE - ignore it and test away in the test forum - I do and most everyone else.

It is VERY interesting to NOW see a pilot view from inside the F-35. Let us hope we see more. Early on the canopy bow was flagged as problematic by test pilots for ARF (air refueling). The view reminds me of that seen from inside an A-4. FlightSims NEVER get it right. In real world one quickly 'sees through' any obstruction such as all the metalwork in an A-4.

How is that done? The brain/eye combo compensates and I'll guess one moves one's head slightly to build the overall view.

The JPG is distorted by the camera lens/angle so I'll post a NATOPS graphic also.... The view on the left side of the metalwork was excellent for carrier landings as I recall.
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Unread post11 Jul 2017, 01:26

I just watched the F-35A's display again at Paris. Impressive... The minimum radius turn it performed was extremely tight, so tight in fact, I'm beginning to wonder if either the Typhoon or Rafale could beat it.
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Unread post11 Jul 2017, 03:42

jetblast16 wrote:I just watched the F-35A's display again at Paris. Impressive... The minimum radius turn it performed was extremely tight, so tight in fact, I'm beginning to wonder if either the Typhoon or Rafale could beat it.


The F-35A is doing 19-21 second minrads, the F-16 demo does a 18-20 second one, the F-22 is usually 20 sec, the typhoon and the rafale are both 18-20 seconds as well. The F-15 is usually 22-24 and the Super Hornet is 24-28 seconds, the F-35b has been 26-35 seconds on min rad during performances. Essentially all modern aircraft are in the same ballpark, well at least down low :D
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Unread post11 Jul 2017, 03:46

Probably the best video I have seen from Paris, Camera was in a great position and very well handled, you get a much better sense of the energy the F-35 had during the routine.
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Unread post11 Jul 2017, 04:58

geforcerfx wrote:Probably the best video I have seen from Paris, Camera was in a great position and very well handled, you get a much better sense of the energy the F-35 had during the routine.

looking at the vapor at the beginning plus the incomplete pedal turn this is almost certainly this one particular validation flight [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeqryYh_yw0]

i can't get enough of it, it was by far imo the finest run of the entire event.
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Unread post17 Jul 2017, 05:29

Just got this e-mail from the Abbotsford Air Show:

http://mailchi.mp/abbotsfordairshow/jet ... 8a472fb24b

Not only will there be USAF F-35A's, both in static and in aerial demonstration, a Dutch F-35A will also join the party.
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Unread post18 Jul 2017, 00:15

Step 1. let Billie Flynn fly the F-35
Step 2. give the F-35 display an extra 3-5 min
Step 3. Profit.
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