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Unread post07 Mar 2019, 04:26

Via e-mail da pics of ANADOLU under construction, chaps are atop the ski jump. Date March 2019 Last one looking AFT.
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Unread post07 Mar 2019, 21:07

Insisting on acquiring the S-400 missile systems from Russia, our dreams of equipping our LHD ships with F-35B fighters are fading away. As I have stated in my previous comments on this issue, in this forum under a different topic, as a Turkish citizen, I find it illogical to acquire incompatible hardware. This has nothing to do with “independance”. It is obvious that we have a big gap in the area of air defence, especially at long range and high altitude. But I would prefer transferring the funds to the domestic defence institutions rather than collaborating with an old adversary, and organize them to develop an indigenous system that could also be compatible with our allies. I think none of our allies would be bothered by such indigenous systems as they have not done so after we have produced SOM and Atmaca cruise missiles or Hisar low and medium altitude SAM systems.
Returning to the topic, according to the rumors, our Navy has expressed interest for F-35B fighters, up to a total of 32. I find it too much, and for mainly financial reasons, 16 aircraft seems more possible number. As far as I know, Juan Carlos I class LHD ships can have 8 active fighter aircraft along with other assets on board. If we assume that the second ship of this class (TCG Trakya) realizes, then 2 ships will have 16 aircraft in total. Then, as a reserve force and training purposes an additional batch of 4 aircraft may be procured, bringing up the total F-35B aircraft to 20.
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Unread post07 Mar 2019, 21:29

Without any understanding (except through some Western media) I can say that TO ME it appears only Pres Ergodan wants the S-400 system (other sycophants may support though) for own political purposes & of course I may be TODALLY RONG.

In the other TURKEY thread recently is a report about the SWEDISH opinion of the S-400 - not a lot to gain it would seem:

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Unread post08 Mar 2019, 01:22

If one follows the saga from day 1, it suggest Turkey wants to improve production capability for long ranged rocketry. They were specifically denied that with the patriot, went to the Chinese (countered) and now Russian to get leverage. Its not really about SAMs. Its technology they are after.
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Unread post08 Mar 2019, 02:52

IF that is the reason then the technology is apparently NOT MUCH. But who am I to say. "Turkey is the NEW CANADA?" No?
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Unread post01 Apr 2019, 16:38

ANADOLU from afar sometime in March 2019 via e-mail.
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Unread post02 Apr 2019, 02:06

spazsinbad wrote:ANADOLU from afar sometime in March 2019 via e-mail.




So, does anybody seriously believe. That Turkey is really willing to trade many of it's Premier Defense Projects and Military Contracts with the US, Europe, and NATO. Just to acquire the S400 from Russia???
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Unread post02 Apr 2019, 02:16

Not believing - however with EGO DAN the dictator - Like that PRUDENT KANACKA character - anyfing is possible. No? Eh.
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Unread post02 Apr 2019, 02:28

spazsinbad wrote:Not believing - however with EGO DAN the dictator - Like that PRUDENT KANACKA character - anyfing is possible. No? Eh.




Sure anything is possible....Yet, the Turkish Military and Defense Industry alone must be doing 'backflips".


If, Erdogan isn't worried about a Military Coup. He should be..... :shock:
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Unread post05 Apr 2019, 02:24

Meanwhile READ the other bits of this AXE toolish article because ye 'eyes may melt' & you will be consigned to the locker.
F-35B Stealth Fighters: Coming Soon to South Korea's Navy?
03 Apr 2019 David Axe

"Lt. Gen. Lewis Craparotta, the commander of U.S. Marine Corps Forces Pacific, told reporters there's no reason vertical-landing F-35s couldn't operate from the South Korean navy's Dokdo and Marado assault ships.

Lt. Gen. Lewis Craparotta, the commander of U.S. Marine Corps Forces Pacific, told reporters there's no reason vertical-landing F-35s couldn't operate from the South Korean navy's Dokdo and Marado assault ships. Craparotta made his announcement while discussing the recent deployment from Hawaii to South Korea of 14 U.S. aircraft -- including four MV-22s, four CH-53s, four AH-1Zs and two UH-1Y transport helicopters -- for exercises South Korean marines.

Craparotta said his Marines' "readiness improves every time they come to train" with the South Koreans. The 653-feet-long Dokdo, which entered service in 2007, is one of South Korea's largest warships. Sister ships Marado is under construction. Dokdo normally embarks an air wing composed of as many as 10 helicopters....

...There have been reports [ https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/28/south-k ... ships.html ] that Seoul also wants to acquires its own F-35Bs. John Pike, a U.S. military analyst, told CNBC the F-35B would give the South Korean fleet an air-defense capability "that you wouldn't want to mess with."...

...It's unclear whether the Dokdo-class ships would need modifications to make them compatible with the F-35." [OF COURSE THEY WILL - what a DORK AXE makes himself out to be - knowing better all along but CONCERN TROLL indeed]

Source: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/ ... navy-50507
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Unread post10 Apr 2019, 22:55

Via E-mail TRIESTE due to be launched at end of May whilst graphic is as is.... (NOTE JPALS installed)
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Unread post11 Apr 2019, 03:24

Interesting no forward facing bridge in the second island. So, I assume they can direct the ship from there. If, the forward island is damaged or knocked out. Unlike the Queen Elizabeth Class....
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Unread post12 Apr 2019, 14:55

Seems like VAW-125 E-2Ds are operating with Wasp based F-35Bs during Balikatan. I do not think CSG-5 is participating in Balikatan. Interesting to see land based VAWs operating independently from CVW with Marine expeditionary units. A new, exciting and highly effective CONOP.
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Unread post12 Apr 2019, 15:04

spazsinbad wrote:Via E-mail TRIESTE due to be launched at end of May whilst graphic is as is.... (NOTE JPALS installed)


Thanks -- Trieste looks very impressive. How many F-35B will it be able to carry?

The 'B is IMHO turning out to become very important to Europe -- it will make it possible for medium-sized EU countries to have a very powerful carrier capacity.
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Unread post12 Apr 2019, 15:12

loke wrote:
spazsinbad wrote:Via E-mail TRIESTE due to be launched at end of May whilst graphic is as is.... (NOTE JPALS installed)

Thanks -- Trieste looks very impressive. How many F-35B will it be able to carry? The 'B is IMHO turning out to become very important to Europe -- it will make it possible for medium-sized EU countries to have a very powerful carrier capacity.

Not sure whilst there is a possibility that later with a ski jump (which may be installed during a refit) more will be known.
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