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Unread post16 Apr 2014, 19:19

I put this in Milestones too, but thought it's get more looks here.

This looks official to me.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/f-35 ... ish-flight

F-35 Lightning II jet to make maiden British flight

The combat aircraft will fly in Britain for the first time this summer at 2 airshows.

The F-35 Lightning II will make its international debut in July at the Royal International Air Tattoo in Fairford and in the same month will also fly at the Farnborough International Air Show.

This will be the first time the combat aircraft has flown outside of the United States. The selection of 2 UK airshows demonstrates the significant role that Britain has in the programme. Approximately 15% of every aircraft is built in the UK.

Defence Secretary Philip Hammond said:

The US and the UK have worked closely together on the F-35 project from the beginning. We are the only country that is a Level 1 partner in the project, which is sustaining tens of thousands of jobs in the UK.

This fifth generation stealth combat aircraft will be a major boost to British combat air power and it is entirely fitting that the F-35’s first stop outside the United States will be in the UK – its second home.

The MOD has 3 aircraft which are all currently based in the US undertaking training with Royal Navy and Royal Air Force pilots. Orders for further aircraft will be placed over the next few years.

The UK’s first operational Lightning II squadron, 617 Squadron, is scheduled to transition to RAF Marham in Norfolk from the US in 2018 ahead of flight trials of the Queen Elizabeth Class Carrier later that year.
An F-35B Lightning II taking off from the USS Wasp
An F-35 Lightning II takes off from the USS Wasp (library image) [Picture: Todd R McQueen, Lockheed Martin]

The F-35 Lightning II will be capable of undertaking a wide range of operations from intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance missions to high intensity combat, including air defence for a Carrier Task Group and offensive support for ground forces.

The Royal International Air Tattoo is open to the public from 11-13 July and Farnborough International Air Show is open to trade visitors from 14-18 July and open to the public 19-20 July.
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Unread post16 Apr 2014, 20:43

Thanks. Hope it all goes well eh.
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Unread post16 Apr 2014, 21:27

UPDATE 3-F-35 fighter jet to make first trans-Atlantic flight in July 16 Apr 2014 Andrea Shalal

"...Current plans call for several F-35s to participate in the air shows, including at least one of the three F-35 B-model jets already built for Britain, with a UK pilot at the controls.

U.S. and UK officials agreed on the need to bring over a number of aircraft to avoid any technical flight disruptions....

...U.S. defense officials said the overseas flights would be used for additional training and would help the F-35 program office learn how the plane's logistics, maintenance, aerial refueling, and security systems work overseas...."

SOURCE: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/ ... Y220140416

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Lockheed Preparing For F-35 U.K. Deployment 16 Apr 2014 Anthony Osborne

"...The plans — approved by U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel on April 16 — are already well advanced and should see the Joint Strike Fighter make its international public debut at the Royal International Air Tattoo (RIAT) at RAF Fairford July 11-13, with aircraft taking part in both the flying display and potentially also the static display at the military air show.

The aircraft will also take part in the Farnborough air show, but only in the flying display, flying in from Fairford, where it is understood the aircraft will be based.

Marine Corps aircrews have put together a display sequence for the aircraft, debuting it at the MCAS Yuma Air Show in Arizona on March 15...."

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Unread post17 Apr 2014, 01:22

STILL is an AmiableButler term but STILL AND ALL the F-35s have not done a LOT OF THINGs STILL!

F-35B set to make international debut at RIAT, Farnborough STILL 16 Apr 2014 STILL UNK

"...The appearance also represents a logistical challenge for the F-35 flight test team. More than seven years and 15,200 flight hours after first flight in December 2006, the F-35 still has not crossed an ocean.

But the programme has been preparing for the extended trip across the Atlantic. On 25 February, a joint sortie by AF-6 and BF-18 – F-35A and B models, respectively – completed a 5.7h mission.

The nature of the F-35 flying display in the UK has not been announced, but the test team appears to be prepared despite the aircraft remaining at least . In March, an F-35B performed a full aerial display at the MCAS Yuma, Arizona, Air Show, featuring several high-speed passes in normal mode and low-speed passes in STOVL configuration.

In the final pass, the F-35B slowed to a hover about 100m over the runway, pivoted about 45 degrees, and then accelerated to make a final turn and land in normal mode."

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Unread post17 Apr 2014, 13:37

F-35 to Debut at The Royal International Air Tattoo 2014 17 Apr 2014

Tickets - http://bit.ly/1awo979

The Royal International Air Tattoo takes place at RAF Fairford, Gloucestershire, from 11-13 July 2014.

See the F-35 make its international debut! http://www.airtattoo.com


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Unread post18 Apr 2014, 02:54

Being a BRIT show perhaps they'll bother to break out some paint - mark out a CVF deck - and do some [S]RVLs in the 60-70 KanNot range just to show 'em? You heard it here furst! :devil: AND... Fillum it from above like. Wot a show guv. :mrgreen:
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Unread post13 May 2014, 08:44

Glavy: No F-35 Vertical Landing At Farnborough Due To Ongoing Mat Tests Inside the Navy - 12 May 2014
"Testing on the matting needed to support an F-35B Joint Strike Fighter vertical landing won't be complete before the aircraft's planned international debut at the Farnborough International Air Show in the United Kingdom this summer, the Marine Corps' deputy assistant commandant for aviation told reporters last week...."

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Unread post15 May 2014, 18:43

For those on the right coast, the will be a F-35B demo at the Cherry Point airshow this weekend.

"The fifth-generation fighter jet is scheduled for its first public flight on the East Coast during the Saturday and Sunday shows at Cherry Point air station.

“This is the first chance for everybody on the East Coast to get a chance to look at the plane,” said Marine pilot Maj. Tyler Bardo, of Marine Fighter Attack Training Squadron 501 at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida. Bardo and fellow pilot Maj. Brendon Walsh are scheduled to be at the air show, with demonstrations of the new jet scheduled for 4 p.m. both Saturday and Sunday...."

"Bardo said the specific jet to fly in the air show has already been at Cherry Point. It was one of the first JSF planes to receive modifications at the Fleet Readiness Center East repair and maintenance facility...."

"The Marine Corps is bringing three planes to the show, two for demonstrations and one to be positioned on the flight line for close-up viewing. ..."

"“One of the things that we’re going to do is convert the airplane right at show center so that they can see all of the doors opening up and the nozzle rotate down and the airplane doing the transition from a conventional airplane to a STOVL jet,” Bardo said. “My anticipation is that they are going to like what they see...."

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Unread post15 May 2014, 18:52

Heheh - more or less same time post here: WITH A VERY NICE PITCHA!

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Unread post16 May 2014, 18:29

There was an F-35C on static this year at NAS JRB Fort Worth in April... viewtopic.php?f=63&t=25444
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Unread post26 May 2014, 14:06

Guess who's back?

Having been discredited over his pronouncements about 'can't VL' and melting flight decks several years ago, he's back once again --

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... ed-to.html

After the program has performed over ~700 VLs Bill seems unsatisfied.

Spaz, isn't there an ancient thread on this from 2009/10?
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Unread post26 May 2014, 14:56

:mrgreen: 'quickie' is not this amazing? :devil: I have just been reading and excerpting as indicated below. I'll search for the thread and post URL here also. I was going to search for the thread and post this lot there but whatever.... :shock: BillyBobBoy SweetiePie sure knows how to bend his own 'truth' and prejudice. I could make more comments I guess but anyway I'll just put this here....
Why Can’t America’s Newest Stealth Jet Land Like It’s Supposed To? 26 May 2014 Bill Sweetman

"The Pentagon’s gazillion-dollar Joint Strike Fighter can’t pull off maneuvers that older jets were doing in the early ’60s. Who’s to blame?

There are big air shows in the UK this summer. The British public may be a little disappointed, however. The F-35B Joint Strike Fighter — the stealth jet that’s supposed to be able to take off [bollocks and he knows it - STOVL is the name] and land vertically, like a helicopter — will be on display for the first time outside the U.S. But it won’t emulate the vertical landings that the Harrier family has made routine since the Beatles were playing dodgy nightclubs in Hamburg. [What a HIP guy.]

U.S. Marine aviation boss Brig. Gen. Matthew Glavy has said that there are no plans for the F-35B to perform vertical landings (VLs) in the UK, because the program has not finished testing the matting that’s needed to protect the runway from exhaust heat. (The program office, the Marines, and Lockheed Martin did not return emails about any part of this story.) [Simple amazing that BiliousBobblie can be so ignored eh.] It may sound like a simple issue, but it pops the lids off two cans of worms: the program’s relationship with the truth, and the operational utility of VL....

...F-35Bs perform VLs on a pad of AM-2 aluminum matting, protecting the concrete from heat and blast. Why didn’t the January 2010 tests result in a change to the specifications? How were those tests performed? The Navy has referred those questions to Lockheed Martin, which has repeatedly failed to answer them. [Plenty of info on this issue in the other thread.]

This isn’t the only instance where Lockheed Martin has tried to shoot the messenger on the basis of weak facts. [QUE? How has this come about? Is this some paranoia?]...

...Rolling or creeping vertical landings can spread the heat load over a greater area. But there is no sign that they have been tested on concrete, asphalt, or AM-2 over asphalt. What about multiple, close-together landings? Will hot asphalt debris stay off the fighter’s stealthy skin? [Will Godzilla rule the world - f'ed if I know.]

Nobody seems willing to say when such tests will be conducted — which is odd, because we do flight tests to prove the airplane can meet requirements. How was the requirement for the F-35B to VL on a non-standard runway framed? [Now that is weird - the F-35B can do a non-VL that is appropriate to the runway length available shirley.] Indeed, was that requirement formally defined at all? Omitting the latter would have been a catastrophic mistake by the Pentagon...." [This chap oughtta stay off the turps when typing.]

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Unread post26 May 2014, 15:19

I had an exchange with SweetiePie over on Pprune a while back about the 'melting' issues. I was floored when it was pointed out how youse amerikans confuse asphalt and concrete as I know those terms in Oz. So using those two words interchangeably can really be confusing for a lad from dunnunder. Anyway I guess I'm up to speed now on it (asphalt/concrete). Searching for asphalt will produce hits and here are some... NOT all URLs listed BTW....

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=16017&p=249036&hilit=asphalt#p249036

Scroll down here to see a MATT runway. As Far As I Know AFAIK USMC '29 Palms' CA is more or less made of AM-2 matting.

STUFF here: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=23438&p=248836&hilit=asphalt#p248836
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AV-8B/Expeditionary (F-35B) Basing on AM-2 Matting Exercise
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Unread post26 May 2014, 17:48

Oh Bill, always good for a laugh...I think the only thing melting is his mind when the F35B conducts any VL :P. Some gems from his article.....questioning the operational value of VLs by the F35B!!?? Geez Bill, you must have missed the F35B's ship suitability testing on the USS Wasp.....the only way the F35Bs landed on the USS Wasp is through VLs! Bill's assertion that the F35B did not perform rolling vertical landings (at least on concrete) is very bizarre....Spaz, I remembered that you posted a video on Youtube (August 2013) showing an F35B performing a rolling vertical landing in MCAS Yuma on a concrete runway. The concrete did not appear to explode catastrophically :P nor have I heard/read anything to that effect. Poor Bill, must have not heard of Google or Youtube. And Bill's relationship with the truth seems so tenous or even non existent at times!
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Unread post26 May 2014, 18:21

quicksilver wrote:Guess who's back?

Having been discredited over his pronouncements about 'can't VL' and melting flight decks several years ago, he's back once again --

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... ed-to.html

After the program has performed over ~700 VLs Bill seems unsatisfied.

Spaz, isn't there an ancient thread on this from 2009/10?


What's amusing is he's been reduced to pandering to the Daily Beast crowd, because they don't know any better. :lol:
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