Female Commander F-16 demo pilot relieved of command

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Unread post17 Feb 2019, 09:18

Colonel Derek O'Malley is a very brave and professional man, salute you!
In the crazy world we are living in when the media vampires and the feminism witches just waiting for a chance to drink their "victims" blood it's take courage to act like that - equal rights is equal duties.

Captain Travis Zettel commanded the nuclear-powered attack submarine USS Bremerton also been relieved of command and it's so quiet out there, nobody talk about the board who fired him...
https://www.stripes.com/sacked-sub-comm ... s-1.564250

But on Colonel Derek O'Malley? articles and a 15 years old video trying to mark him as the bad guy in the story
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... video.html
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Unread post19 Feb 2019, 22:30

botsing wrote:
mixelflick wrote:Likely another example of someone who wasn't ready, or qualified in the first place but got the position because we need greater "diversity".

Please stop with this conjecture and prejudice mixel.

You are basing your rant on speculative information and you are mixing in some very bad stereotyping as well.

SEALS have among others a requirement for physical strength that very few women might ever reach. However, fighter pilots need a different set of requirements where many women will actually fit in pretty well, just ask your average male pilot if they think their women counterparts are able to perform their job or not.


Every military member in the US armed forces has requirements for not only physical strength but endurance. It's not just SEALs. FIghter pilots must still past the physical fitness tests prescribed by their branch of service like everyone else. Marine, Navy and USAF pilots still have to be able to run a certain distance in a certain time, do a certain amount of pullups/pushups in a given amount of time and do other such exercises which are graded and scored. Generally the running and pushup/pullup standards are much lower for females. Why is that? Tell me about these "different set of requirements" you mentioned.
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Unread post19 Feb 2019, 23:09

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mixelflick wrote:Likely another example of someone who wasn't ready, or qualified in the first place but got the position because we need greater "diversity".

Bullshit.

We need the best PEOPLE for the job, not one of every type. And at the end of the day, those "people" are overwhelmingly white males. Don't like that? Too bad. It's the reality. But the USAF, Navy, Marines etc are hell bent on finding a woman, a black man, a Hispanic, a "transgender" etc..

Witness the recent reaction of the commander of the Blue Angels. When getting applications to make the team, he remarked that "we can do better presenting a more diverse pilot cadre" - something to that effect. So what did he do? Started the process over, begging for more "diverse" candidates.

How about the Navy's first F-14 pilot? Killed herself and damn near killed her RIO on approach to carrier landing. Sure, that's happened with men too. But "Revlon" was continually given a pass in flight school. Anybody that knows anything about her story will tell you that, but the Navy has quietly clamped down on that talk - and her records.

Women don't belong in combat. Period. Their value lies in their very nature: Caregivers, counselors etc etc.. To pretend otherwise is to deny their natural instincts, and it just gets worse the more physical the job. You know why there wasn't a single women who participated in the Bin Laden raid? Or the fact that there isn't a single woman in the SEALS? Because they refused to water down the physical standards, and correctly deduced that if they did - people were going to get killed.

Flame away if you like, but that's the reality of the situation. Not that "political correctness" will want to hear it. In, before the left's playbook 101: "You're sexist, misogynistic blah blah blah".

Looking forward to the day we see women on the line in the NFL...


Thats a completely shortsighted and misogynistic view of the world.

For instance, Lt Kara Hultgren, the naval aviator I think you are referring to, was probably carrier qualified when she should not have been. I dont know if her training was rushed or abbreviated, or she was ill-suited to carrier operations but her crash (and death) were not the result of her being a female. There are plenty of male aviators that also wash-out or have killed themselves as a result of being crappy pilots. I dont know what the wash-out rate is per specific gender, but it would be interesting to know.

I have also been told then a women's physiology is actually better suited for dealing with sustained periods of high g-loads.

So in short, political correctness and lowering standards is one thing, but to say woman should not be combat pilots is completely unfounded. There are plenty of examples in the Air Force and Navy that validate that assertion, including Col Nichole Malachowski, the first female Thunderbirds demonstration pilot.


Political correctness and lowering standards is not "one thing". That is THE THING that has been the vehicle carrying females into direct combat roles (pilots, infantry, armor, artillery, spec ops) that sets them up for failure. The whole approach is beyond wrong. If putting women in combat roles weren't a political stunt to farm more votes from "useful idiots" then bringing the PT standards for women on part with their men counterparts would have been the first action taken. That would ensure a definitive pool of female candidates that have been meeting male service member standards from day one. Thus setting them (female warriors) up for true success, not furthering the career of some socialist politician.
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