Taiwan to upgrade 145 F16 A/B

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Unread post24 Jul 2019, 15:31

gc wrote:
weasel1962 wrote:The Taiwanese use harps on their F-16s.


Yep but they lack the range and survivability of the JSM


Not the harps the Taiwanese use.
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Unread post16 Aug 2019, 11:23

Rocaf has confirmed they are getting new F-16Vs. And a new IRST for them.

http://alert5.com/2019/08/16/rocaf-has- ... new-f-16s/
https://alert5.com/2019/08/16/the-myste ... -at-tadte/

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Unread post16 Aug 2019, 11:43

Nice! But until Washington confirms they have sold new F-16's I wouldn't take this to be true just yet :wink:

EDIT: I stand corrected - I see that Washington post is also reporting the same, much to China's irritation. Shouldn't be long before formal government notice is given with a delivery timeline to follow.

Looks like the F-16 might reach 5000 fighters sold grand total yet :twisted:
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Unread post22 Aug 2019, 17:54


The ongoing turmoil between the U.S. and China will have an impact back home in Greenville as $8 billion worth of F-16 fighter jets is expected to be produced at the industrial complex formerly known as the Donaldson Center and sold to Taiwan.

Today, U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham confirmed that 66 jets will be produced at Greenville's Lockheed Martin plant, following the announcement by President Donald Trump's administration that a deal with Taiwan had been cleared.

The final deal must be approved by Congress, which to this point has expressed bipartisan support.


https://eu.greenvilleonline.com/story/n ... 071718001/

via FMS


This proposed sale is consistent with U.S. law and policy as expressed in Public Law 96-8

This proposed sale serves U.S. national, economic, and security interests by supporting the recipient’s continuing efforts to modernize its armed forces and to maintain a credible defensive capability. The proposed sale will help improve the security of the recipient and assist in maintaining political stability, military balance, and economic progress in the region.

This proposed sale will contribute to the recipient’s capability to provide for the defense of its airspace, regional security, and interoperability with the United States. The recipient currently operates the F-16A/B. The recipient will have no difficulty absorbing this aircraft and services into its arms forces.

The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region


Edit: seems they are GE-F110 Block 70s
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Unread post23 Aug 2019, 00:49

The proximity to China means engine performance isn't that critical. What's interesting about the deal:

(a) They're competing JHMCS II v Scorpion Hobit.
(b) the Crypto comsec bells and whistles
(c) ALE-50
(d) No SDBs <- Significantly more firepower, instead LJDAMs <- moving target capability presumably against vessels = no more expensive harpoons.
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Unread post23 Aug 2019, 08:33

Does anybody know who is doing the modification. Would be fun to get a job with this big a project.
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Unread post23 Aug 2019, 09:27

China saying the new F-16V are useless while saying it harms China's national security. Isn't that self-contradictory?

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/militar ... 6-fighters
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Unread post23 Aug 2019, 16:02

The shopping lists I've seen so far, tend to list 66 F-16C/D, but not how many F-16C and F-16D.
I'm guessing 62 F-16C and 4 F-16D.

The lists tend to list 66 aircraft, and 75 sets of engines or whatever, with nine sets as spares: 66 + 9 =75.

But they include 70 sets of NVGs.
Presuming one set of NVG per cockpit, and no spare, then 62 x 1 set for 62 F-16C + (4 x 2 =) 8 sets for 4 F-16D = 70 sets.
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